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Everyone does not, in fact, have a book in them

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Re: Everyone does not, in fact, have a book in them

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It's actually possible almost everyone, or at least a great many people, have a good book in them. The hard part I would think is getting it out of them. It takes work and practice.

I've been a professional writer for much of my life, in the sense that for periods of time I've actually been able to eat and pay NYC rent by virtue of people paying me to write things.

But I don't know if I have a book in me. Because every time I try to write things that could possibly turn into a book I read them and they don't sound very good. I know what I'd have to do to change that, namely write a lot every day for a few years until it clicked. But I don't.

But so far I haven't made that a priority, so whatever book might be in me is still there. I think there's a lot of people like that. Many people just can't write and tell stories at all, of course. But many many people can, and would in fact be able to do so compellingly, but they haven't and won't put in the work.

Re: Everyone does not, in fact, have a book in them

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post #6

>I put it like this: I have been running since I was about a year old. Almost 40 years! But I cannot for the life of me run a marathon. I am not physically capable of it, even though I can run a few miles in a row. Yes, you are. You just tell yourself that you are not. And yes, you can write a book. Whether it gets published or not is another story. I don't understand why someone whose job it is to find the next best…

Agreed. I could run a marathon if I put in the effort. The reason I "can't" is truthfully that I can't be arsed. If you want to run a marathon what you're saying is that you're happy for training for that marathon to take over your life for, probably, about a year, and I'm not motivated to do that.

With that being said Eddie Izzard, with little training, ran 43 marathons in 51 days. He didn't break any records or win any medals, which I suppose is roughly analogous to getting a book published, but he did do it, over and over again, which is arguably writing the damn book.

All of this suggests that I could probably run a marathon right now if I really felt like it. Fortunately (I'll say it again) I can't be arsed. Same goes for writing the book, because nothing inspires me enough to write an entire book. But I could do it, because I've absolutely written a book's worth of words over the past few years.

Re: Everyone does not, in fact, have a book in them

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The article title is actually “No, you probably don’t have a book in you”.

But the intended meaning of the article is more like “no, you probably don’t have a bestselling book in you.”

Disclaimer - I’ve written a kids sci-fi novel in the past year. Something I’ve been meaning to do for awhile now, and finally got around to actually putting down the words on the page to make it happen.

Now it’s one thing to say “I wrote a novel.” But to be fair I wrote the draft of a novel that still needs substantial editing before it’s ready to publish. I’ve been picking at it for awhile, and still it’s not ready to send out to other editors (or agents).

I’ve been stuck in edit mode for months now, I’ve been finding editing much harder than writing. A common feeling. One writer told me that writing is like a party, editing is cleaning up the next day. Some of my published friends and colleagues tell me it takes a few drafts of editing before it’s even good enough to send to an agent or editor. So I’ve got a lot of hard work ahead of me.

But this article is a bit strange because the author is an agent herself, who knows full well that there’s a ton of editing and a night-vs-day difference between someone’s first cruddy draft and a finished product, for which agents and editors worth their salt will have honed and worked their magic on.

Also a bit discouraging to hear this from an agent, suggesting people’s stories may not be worthy enough to be told. if anything I’d want them to encourage more people to write that story they’ve been thinking about on the train. Can you imagine if JK Rowling heard this and just thought, “she’s right, my story probably sucks, better to just focus on my day job.”

Though the author does clear things up a little at the end of the article to say write a book because you want to write it, not because someone told you to write it.

But in any case, the title is still misleading because people do have books in them. Even if they’re not profitable. Even if the ultimate reading audience is in the single digits. It’s still a book that means something to the author and that small but critical audience of readers.

Re: Everyone does not, in fact, have a book in them

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post #3

This reminds me of the idea that seemed to be very popular a couple years ago that everyone can and should become a programmer. Nothing is quite that simple.

It's really sad. The original idea is that application interfaces should make programming accessible. Think the vi editor as used by AT&T secretaries, or Excel spreadsheets.

Some concepts and interfaces simply can't be shrouded in clickable widgets that command the computer to perform some pre-scripted task. Just like people need to use math directly and require the ability to input and manipulate simple equations, some problems require the creation of small programs--variables, conditionals, and the encapsulation of these things into functions.

Maximizing the utility of computers means everybody should be capable of not only basic grammar or basic math, but basic computer programming. But that doesn't mean everybody needs to be taught to be an author, mathematician, or computer programmer. Rather, actual computer programmers need to design applications in a way that make it simple and easy to apply basic editing, mathematical, and computer science techniques to the task at hand.

That was the original idea back in the day. Then it was co-opted by social movements in a manner that completely misunderstood the notion. Indeed, they have it completely backwards. The way to make programming accessible (and to reduce the outsized power of the programmer class, sharing the wealth) isn't to turn everybody into programmers, it's to make programming a part of every job.

But the fact that programming is largely still the domain of programmers isn't the fault of those social movements. It turns out it's really hard to design interfaces and applications in this manner, and harder still to keep it consistent across unrelated applications so knowledge and experience readily transfer. Arguably the furthest we've ever gotten is early text editors, the shell, and spreadsheets.

Re: Everyone does not, in fact, have a book in them

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> for many reasons too boring to get into here, and no, it’s not just cheaper to do ebooks, either Guessing he's not counting kindle publishing here, but regardless I'd love to know all the little details of why publishing e-books are so difficult

Charlie Stross detailed this in a blog post (which I can’t easily find). Basically, printing a book is easy in comparison to editing, typesetting, and marketing.

Re: Everyone does not, in fact, have a book in them

#17
The tldr is that writing books is hard and most attempts fail.. especially if made by amateurs haphazardly and without practice, instruction or plans that involve learning to do something before being good at it.

It finishes with a satisfying lesson in curmudgeon economics.

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Anyway... it's interesting that so many people want to write a book. They may be naive, but they do know it's hard. That's why they haven't done it yet.

Re: Everyone does not, in fact, have a book in them

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Honestly, even accomplished writers sometimes don't have a book in them. I've many works that would be a great Harvard Business Review article but got expanded into books for some reason or other. You probably have a great long read article in you, book... not so sure.

Re: Everyone does not, in fact, have a book in them

#20

I suppose this is the literary equivalent of a software developer writing an article "No, you probably can't program computers"

I think a better analogy would be an article along the lines of "Sorry, your good idea isn't necessarily a startup"
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