Live data from Hacker News

Ask HN: How to overcome fear of flying?

news.ycombinator.com

111–120 of 266 posts

Re: Ask HN: How to overcome fear of flying?

#111

Step 1: visit the closest bar to your gate before flight Step 2: Drink a large beer or whiskey on-the-rocks. Repeat until well-buzzed. Step 3: Enter the plane and get yourself doing something to take your mind off of it, like music, movie, or book. Cheaper alternative would be to get little sample shots from your local liquor store before you fly - those are allowed past security, and you can toss it in your orange j…

Just do not open your alcohol in front of the flight staff in the USA. There are restrictions on passengers serving alcohol to themselves on flights. Some airlines will serve the alcohol to you that you brought on board, others will give you a less than gentle reminder of the policy.

Re: Ask HN: How to overcome fear of flying?

#112
post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is similar to my experiences with getting blood drawn. About two-weeks prior to the draw I would watch a couple of videos on YouTube of blood draws each night. By the time the day came, I was still anxious but fine. I've been told that the anxiety was created by my nearly passing out when getting blood drawn but the mechanism for nearly passing out is different from panic or anxiety. Still, my "exposure therapy"…

OK, so I just saw Tom Cruise and James Corden jump out of a plane. Before I saw Will Smith do it. It looks like so much fun, but its so scary. I wonder if the visualization aspect of jumping out of a plan would also help my nerves. Maybe set a date and then watch YT videos for a few minutes a day on tandem jumping.

That is, in fact, a facet of ACT. Do things to expose yourself to tiny amounts of fear an anxiety, then progressively increasing that exposure that until you either don't feel them or don't perceive them as bad.

Put another way; you become comfortable with being uncomfortable. Believe it or not, you can actually enjoy those feelings.

Re: Ask HN: How to overcome fear of flying?

#115
post #12

I had a fear of flying, which I overcame completely by accident: I started playing a realistic flight sim for a while. Because it was realistic, I had to learn the basics of how to actually fly a plane. It taught me two things: what some of the noises, the vibrations, and the movements were; and how hard it is to actually crash a plane. Once you made it in the air, you'll want to try crashing your plane in the game (…

We're building a VR simulation of flying specifically for the purpose of overcoming fear of flying. It uses some of the same principles you mention: -Repeated exposure to a realistic flying experience (in our case, it goes gradually since it's designed for people with a fear) -Specifically learning about some of the different noises planes make -Getting exposure to the vibrations, noises, turbulence, etc that you'll…

I've been thinking about the huge potential of VR to help overcome the fear of flying for years, no joke. Glad to see someone has taken up the task! Good luck to you!

Re: Ask HN: How to overcome fear of flying?

#116
I used to be so afraid of flying that I would cry and hold strangers hands on planes without any prompting. It was out of control. It started really slowly though. I was able to fly when I was younger, but nervousness started to take over and eventually, like you, a bout of turbulence made me even more anxious.

I told my doctor about my week long anxiety before flying and how I would cry on strangers randomly throughout a flight convinced they were the last person I would ever meet. He prescribed Xanax and suggested therapy. The drugs helped me keep to myself, but what helped the most was watching planes take off and land at SFO.

I was flying to SFO for work and staying at a hotel nearby, so I would sit and watch planes take off and land. Every time I heard the engines speed up for take off, I would get nervous (and feel myself getting nervous writing this), but after a while, it got to where I could distract myself from the fear when on the plane.

When I wasn't in SFO, I would listen to air traffic control (smooth calming pilot voices!) on my ham radio as prep for an upcoming flight.

Also therapy is amazing for helping me work through various other anxieties.

Good luck! Its not impossible and you are on the right track through looking into statistics and trying to give yourself something concrete and rational to think about.

Re: Ask HN: How to overcome fear of flying?

#117
I like checking the aviation forecast for my route so that I know when and where turbulence is expected. Knowing in advance what’s expected helps me feel better about the whole experience. It makes me think that perhaps whatever flying jitters I have are about the unknown.

https://www.aviationweather.gov/

Re: Ask HN: How to overcome fear of flying?

#118
Great question. I used to be scared of flying, despite doing alot of it.

A few things cured me. I watched alot of aircraft carrier landings, especially in bad weather. Even in those conditions the plans land nearly every time. I realised that in contrast, passengers jets are nothing more than highly reliable, safe slow buses.

Also I came to realise something about courage. Fear of flying is being scared about something that has not yet happened. So I simply decided I would be scared when a plane was actually crashing. That's courage - not being overly concerned about something until it actually happens.

The other thing is to understand that the physics of plans is really on your side, especially during landing - these things are incredibly stable as they land and the design of the plane is forcing it down during landing .... it's really highly unlikely something will go wrong.

And finally I thought about the statistics - you are literally more likely to die in the car ride to the airport than on the plane.

Re: Ask HN: How to overcome fear of flying?

#119
I had a similar experience. Before I was a casual flyer, and then on my way to Wenzhou in an Airbus A320 we had a sudden jolt of turbulence going sideways. After that experience I didn't enjoy flying, and would grab the seat armrests at any form of turbulence.

It sounds daft, but I used to repeat a phrase in my head when flying: "safe, calm, happy". It's more of a psychological trick than anything else, but I found it helped me to adjust my thinking at moments.

Recently, I took a role which meant working abroad, and then I realised that I would need to be doing quite a lot of flying to get back for various events. In July I've flown 9 times, 2 of which were on a propeller plane (Bombardier Q400). The experience of doing that many flights means that I don't experience any anxiety when flying, but I still tend to strap myself in a bit more tightly whenever there's some turbulence.

Oh, and the other thing that helps is sitting next in the window seat - being able to look out the window when the plane is taking off, in flight and landing helps. You also get to see some great views.

Re: Ask HN: How to overcome fear of flying?

#120
I go on live-leak once every few months and watch questionable material. Things like OSHA incidents, fatal freak accidents, war,gopro adrenaline videos, etc. I find I need to remind myself that I am lucky and grateful for the life I have, and to take safety seriously. I also do this to build willpower and fearlessness in many things, because I would have seen it already once. So when something imminent does happen I have natural instincts to do whats needed

When you realize you have a higher chance of dying in a car accident than a flight things are put in perspective. You won't have a choice in either case anyhow, shit just happens. Accept that some things are out of your control and you take a gamble at everything you do in life. Not everyone wins.

Post reply on HN