Ex-SolarCity employees: We were fired after reporting millions in fake sales

Post by watwat1 » Tue, Jul 31, 2018, 3:49 PM UTC

krageon wrote: post #85

linuxftw wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It seems like the entire solar industry is focused more on extracting government subsidies than on creating long term revenue streams. Some might argue this is the exact nature of government subsidies. People are always going to make choices in their economic self-interest. Either solar needs to be the most cost effective solution for their energy needs, or the government needs to artificially inflate the cost of o…

I don't think you've sufficiently proven the argument which the rest of your statements hinge on: "People are always going to make choices in their economic self-interest". It's an attractive (if somewhat cynical) point, but it's no more reasonable than any other generalisation. Not very.

Post by compcoffee » Tue, Jul 31, 2018, 3:50 PM UTC

a2tech wrote: post #11

Sgt_Apone wrote: post #2

This tactic allegedly resulted, this person said, in tens or hundreds of millions of dollars in phantom revenue. He added that more than a dozen people reported the practice to the relevant human resources representatives, and CEO Elon Musk himself, who never replied. So employees were pumping up projected sales figures for (at least) personal benefit in the form of bonuses. What happens when these figures don't mate…

Nothing. Its a pretty common problem in sales. Lots of sales people are constantly moving jobs and pushing their numbers up.

Post by jtx22 » Tue, Jul 31, 2018, 3:51 PM UTC

krageon wrote: post #85

linuxftw wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It seems like the entire solar industry is focused more on extracting government subsidies than on creating long term revenue streams. Some might argue this is the exact nature of government subsidies. People are always going to make choices in their economic self-interest. Either solar needs to be the most cost effective solution for their energy needs, or the government needs to artificially inflate the cost of o…

I don't think you've sufficiently proven the argument which the rest of your statements hinge on: "People are always going to make choices in their economic self-interest". It's an attractive (if somewhat cynical) point, but it's no more reasonable than any other generalisation. Not very.

Post by compcoffee » Tue, Jul 31, 2018, 3:55 PM UTC

mkirklions wrote: post #29

onepremise wrote: post #23

Idk, all this hearsay and the saboteur rebranded whistleblower coming out against TSLA/SolarCity with no real substantial proof. Still cant help but wonder if it's just the usual stock shorters creating new opportunities for themselves or fossil fuel supporters and baby boomers looking for new ways to destroy TSLA.

I cant tell if Elon sent his reddit marketing team to bombard HN too. I got 5 downvotes for mentioning that tech companies are working their employees like dogs.

Post by paulddraper » Tue, Jul 31, 2018, 3:56 PM UTC

dv_dt wrote: post #90

linuxftw wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It seems like the entire solar industry is focused more on extracting government subsidies than on creating long term revenue streams. Some might argue this is the exact nature of government subsidies. People are always going to make choices in their economic self-interest. Either solar needs to be the most cost effective solution for their energy needs, or the government needs to artificially inflate the cost of o…

> Every time a hurricane knocks out a town's electric grid and federal funds are used to repair it, that's a subsidy. When government authority to exercise eminent domain acquires easements or land to erect power distribution, that's a subsidy. This is anti-government fervor carried to absurdity. No man is an island. What is the point of government if not to provide care in disastrous situations? And yes this is the…