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Re: Microsoft's Anti-Android FUD Campaign in Full Swing

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No. It is more like taking out a giant ad and saying we own lots of patents and rather than sit on a wall with a plaque we intend to extract value from them, because that is what our shareholders demand.

So one business model = Apple Another = Unisys Looks like the beginning of the end....

Apple was one of the first to sue Android, followed by Oracle, and now by Microsoft.

Re: Microsoft's Anti-Android FUD Campaign in Full Swing

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> syncing with 64-bit Outlook How is that even a problem in the first place? I really will never understand some of the situations Microsoft gets themselves into.

Outlook is MS's preferred utility for storing contacts. Syncing your contacts on a winmo phone means importing them into outlook, essentially.

His point was, what is so fundamentally different about the 64 bit Outlook APIs from the 32 bit ones that would fundamentally break syncing behavior with mobile phones?

And, "How was building in this kind of incompatibility a good thing, anyways?"

From what I've read of Microsoft culture, it was probably because the Outlook team wanted to sabotage the WinMo7 team for some inexplicable and kafkaesque scheme to make themselves look better. Then again, that's speculation.

Re: Microsoft's Anti-Android FUD Campaign in Full Swing

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> syncing with 64-bit Outlook How is that even a problem in the first place? I really will never understand some of the situations Microsoft gets themselves into.

I have no idea what causes this particular problem, but Office is notorious for just writing in-memory data structures to disk and calling it a "file format", which would make 32-bit and 64-bit incompatible.

I've heard people say that, for example, the fact that a Linux system is made of pieces from a million different projects is beneficial to its evolution because doing this kind of crap simply isn't an option. Solid, well-defined interfaces between components are a must (and if they aren't an absolute must, they won't exist - not necessarily because of laziness but because of deadlines) in systems that are made from lots of independent groups' components.

Re: Microsoft's Anti-Android FUD Campaign in Full Swing

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This is not surprising. Ballmer doesn't like the idea of losing his job in disgrace and Windows 7 Phone, while competitive, is still based on Windows CE. If you ignore the GUI, the underlying OS is every bit as sophisticated and modern as... Symbian. These are the patents Microsoft mentioned to the International Trade Commission. They may or may not the the patents mentioned in the Motorola lawsuit. 5,579,517: Common…

From what I read as part of the comments in the article, it seems Google already licensed some if not all of these patents (for Nexus one) and hence kind of validate them.

Is it only for exchange server support? Or did they license some of the more general/ridiculous patents?

Re: Microsoft's Anti-Android FUD Campaign in Full Swing

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I have no idea what causes this particular problem, but Office is notorious for just writing in-memory data structures to disk and calling it a "file format", which would make 32-bit and 64-bit incompatible.

I've heard people say that, for example, the fact that a Linux system is made of pieces from a million different projects is beneficial to its evolution because doing this kind of crap simply isn't an option. Solid, well-defined interfaces between components are a must (and if they aren't an absolute must, they won't exist - not necessarily because of laziness but because of deadlines) in systems that are made from l…

I think there is some merit to that idea, but Linux may have taken it too far when adding a syscall is like negotiating a multilateral treaty between the kernel, glibc, and applications.

Re: Microsoft's Anti-Android FUD Campaign in Full Swing

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Windows Phone 7 is a really good vapor-ware. And ridiculous patents + broken patent system are the key to success

vapor-ware? seriously? The OS has shipped to OEMs already. It actually does exist.

Ok, ok, it's just crapware.
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