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Security Begins at the Home Router

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Re: Security Begins at the Home Router

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Telling that the summary advice is “change the default password”, even if some of the other ideas are deployed user involvement is near zero if not completely zero. I wonder how impactful it would be to roll out a totally read-only router, or if the necessity of updates and maintenance would generate too much headache for the user

Re: Security Begins at the Home Router

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Telling that the summary advice is “change the default password”, even if some of the other ideas are deployed user involvement is near zero if not completely zero. I wonder how impactful it would be to roll out a totally read-only router, or if the necessity of updates and maintenance would generate too much headache for the user

Print the randomly generated password on a sticker on the router. Problem solved.

Re: Security Begins at the Home Router

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Telling that the summary advice is “change the default password”, even if some of the other ideas are deployed user involvement is near zero if not completely zero. I wonder how impactful it would be to roll out a totally read-only router, or if the necessity of updates and maintenance would generate too much headache for the user

AT&T and a few others currently deal with this problem by having a random password assigned for the admin user printed on a sticker on the side of their Modem/Router combo boxes. It seems to work pretty well.

Re: Security Begins at the Home Router

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I don't fear rebooting my router because it takes less than 30 seconds to do a complete cycle; TCP sessions can withstand that.

It probably helps that it runs Debian stable, too, so security updates are frequent and regular.

Re: Security Begins at the Home Router

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Telling that the summary advice is “change the default password”, even if some of the other ideas are deployed user involvement is near zero if not completely zero. I wonder how impactful it would be to roll out a totally read-only router, or if the necessity of updates and maintenance would generate too much headache for the user

(I'm a Googler, opinions are my own).

I think this is one of the awesome things about Google Wifi (aka: OnHub). It's fully managed from a phone app (via "the cloud"), so you get the authentication tied to your gmail account. It's also based on ChromeOs (chromebook OS), and follows a similar auto-update that Chromebooks get. So you are always running the latest firmware.

(There are obviously downsides to Google Wifi, my primary issue being that it doesn't have many of the advanced features that something like UniFi has. But for most people, it works well.).

Re: Security Begins at the Home Router

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post #3

Telling that the summary advice is “change the default password”, even if some of the other ideas are deployed user involvement is near zero if not completely zero. I wonder how impactful it would be to roll out a totally read-only router, or if the necessity of updates and maintenance would generate too much headache for the user

Print the randomly generated password on a sticker on the router. Problem solved.

The only con I can think to that is the initial influx of support questions. I have no idea why this is not the default now, its simple, user friendly, and way more secure

Re: Security Begins at the Home Router

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post #3

Telling that the summary advice is “change the default password”, even if some of the other ideas are deployed user involvement is near zero if not completely zero. I wonder how impactful it would be to roll out a totally read-only router, or if the necessity of updates and maintenance would generate too much headache for the user

Print the randomly generated password on a sticker on the router. Problem solved.

This is what my ISP does for their router/cable modem combo. There's a sticker that tells you the SSID, the password for the SSID, the URL for the web interface along with the user ID and password. The passwords are both randomly generated.

They will also put it into bridge mode for you where none of that stuff applies.

Re: Security Begins at the Home Router

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post #4

Telling that the summary advice is “change the default password”, even if some of the other ideas are deployed user involvement is near zero if not completely zero. I wonder how impactful it would be to roll out a totally read-only router, or if the necessity of updates and maintenance would generate too much headache for the user

AT&T and a few others currently deal with this problem by having a random password assigned for the admin user printed on a sticker on the side of their Modem/Router combo boxes. It seems to work pretty well.

While I do like the idea, att boxes are very low quality and drop wifi connections constantly. I've always installed a ubuqiti router and AP. Apparently it's impossible to disable the firewall on the att box also. I've actually called att and had the conversation: "can you enable some ports". CSR, which ones? Tcp and udp 1-65,535...

Re: Security Begins at the Home Router

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Telling that the summary advice is “change the default password”, even if some of the other ideas are deployed user involvement is near zero if not completely zero. I wonder how impactful it would be to roll out a totally read-only router, or if the necessity of updates and maintenance would generate too much headache for the user

(I'm a Googler, opinions are my own). I think this is one of the awesome things about Google Wifi (aka: OnHub). It's fully managed from a phone app (via "the cloud"), so you get the authentication tied to your gmail account. It's also based on ChromeOs (chromebook OS), and follows a similar auto-update that Chromebooks get. So you are always running the latest firmware. (There are obviously downsides to Google Wifi,…

While your points are valid, it is a bit disconcerting to have the world's largest data monetizer watch all of a home's traffic. Google's promised benevolence may be temporary
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