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China is laying the groundwork for a post-American world order

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Re: China is laying the groundwork for a post-American world order

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If you are interested in a more detailed portrait of the shifts happening, this book is excellent. If the US loses its technological advantage and its reserve currency status, it is very difficult to know what will happen.

https://www.amazon.com/Shadows-American-Century-Decline-Disp...

China's biggest problem will be demographics, second only to their political system.

US will likely due to tax / deficit issues, not so different than the French aristocrats who refused to pay taxes in run-up to the revolution.

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It is Trump that is unraveling the American world order. He dislikes multi-lateral institutions and does not care for values, only interests. Meanwhile, the American government has no cogent response to China's Belt and Road Initiative except for labeling it as "predatory". Something tells me the hard cash of the Chinese will speak louder in Central Asia than American rhetoric.

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It is Trump that is unraveling the American world order. He dislikes multi-lateral institutions and does not care for values, only interests. Meanwhile, the American government has no cogent response to China's Belt and Road Initiative except for labeling it as "predatory". Something tells me the hard cash of the Chinese will speak louder in Central Asia than American rhetoric.

Trump like the neocons is a reaction to a declining American world order. That being said he's doing things that will also like the neocons merely hasten this decline.

You can see this pattern in corporations all the time. Companies that start to lose market share will often actually lean into the strategies and decision patterns that are causing their collapse while simultaneously canceling innovative projects that might lead somewhere new. They also often get aggressive by doubling down on efforts to lock customers in and becoming litigious, further driving away new customers and leading those with an existing investment to start making plans to migrate.

Human beings react to scarcity by hunkering down, but hunkering down is almost always a losing strategy in the post-industrial age.

I expect China's hunkering down to harm it as well. I think it's too early to call China as the new world power.

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It is Trump that is unraveling the American world order. He dislikes multi-lateral institutions and does not care for values, only interests. Meanwhile, the American government has no cogent response to China's Belt and Road Initiative except for labeling it as "predatory". Something tells me the hard cash of the Chinese will speak louder in Central Asia than American rhetoric.

Trump like the neocons is a reaction to a declining American world order. That being said he's doing things that will also like the neocons merely hasten this decline. You can see this pattern in corporations all the time. Companies that start to lose market share will often actually lean into the strategies and decision patterns that are causing their collapse while simultaneously canceling innovative projects that…

> Trump like the neocons is a reaction to a declining American world order.

Neoconservatism arose before the American world order was declining; they only became noteworthy after the end of the Cold War because that (and not any US decline, as such) created a gap between other prominent philosophies and and neoconservatives on substantive foreign policy, where previously there was more of a consensus on the outline of policy, though different philosophies supported the consensus policy.

Re: China is laying the groundwork for a post-American world order

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If you are interested in a more detailed portrait of the shifts happening, this book is excellent. If the US loses its technological advantage and its reserve currency status, it is very difficult to know what will happen. https://www.amazon.com/Shadows-American-Century-Decline-Disp... China's biggest problem will be demographics, second only to their political system. US will likely due to tax / deficit issues, not…

America has a number of enduring advantages:

1. Its geography means it's impervious to conventional invasions.

2. Its embracing culture will attract more immigrants.

3. It is an offshoot of western civilization and therefore has natural allies in Europe.

China's advantages are:

1. It has a population that is 3-4 times the size of the US.

2. Its economy is still underdeveloped, therefore economic growth is a lot easier.

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If you are interested in a more detailed portrait of the shifts happening, this book is excellent. If the US loses its technological advantage and its reserve currency status, it is very difficult to know what will happen. https://www.amazon.com/Shadows-American-Century-Decline-Disp... China's biggest problem will be demographics, second only to their political system. US will likely due to tax / deficit issues, not…

Their Geography is not better either they do not have direct access to Pacific, their energy dependence on ME oil is very evident and of course 17 bordering states with numerous disputes.

If US goes down (that's a big If and very unlikely event) then Pacific will be Japanese playground not Chinas and India will tie-up with the biggest maritime power to check them in India Ocean.

Its really hard to be a super power at least in the near term without being a first grade naval power.

The publication is some times called Washington Compost, a very hard earned nick name for their BS vending!

Re: China is laying the groundwork for a post-American world order

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If you are interested in a more detailed portrait of the shifts happening, this book is excellent. If the US loses its technological advantage and its reserve currency status, it is very difficult to know what will happen. https://www.amazon.com/Shadows-American-Century-Decline-Disp... China's biggest problem will be demographics, second only to their political system. US will likely due to tax / deficit issues, not…

>> US loses its technological advantage and its reserve currency status it is very difficult to know what will happen

Not really... WWIII and likely the end of human civilization will happen.

If the US Falls it is unlikely it will fall silently with out using its massive military to bring down everyone.

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