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A History of Individually Wrapped Cheese Slices (1979) [pdf]

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Re: A History of Individually Wrapped Cheese Slices (1979) [pdf]

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Individually wrapped cheese slices could lead to less spoilage.

Except in practice individual slices all go bad at (roughly) the same time. If a block of cheese goes moldy you can just slice off the mold and keep going. Cheese goes bad outside-in, pre-sliced cheese has way more surface area.

Processed cheese dries out very rapidly when exposed to the dry air inside a refrigerator.

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As someone from Wisconsin it is wrong to even call that stuff "cheese". The plastic wrapping and the contents are pretty much the same thing.

Meh, this is just snobbery. Processed American cheese is still in fact a cheese, and whether you like it or not, it has its place.

Isn't it technically a "processed cheese product"?

Why eat something so intensely boring, when there is so much great cheese out there?

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Meh, this is just snobbery. Processed American cheese is still in fact a cheese, and whether you like it or not, it has its place.

Isn't it technically a "processed cheese product"? Why eat something so intensely boring, when there is so much great cheese out there?

Take pride in what you create, rather than what you consume.

Re: A History of Individually Wrapped Cheese Slices (1979) [pdf]

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Meh, this is just snobbery. Processed American cheese is still in fact a cheese, and whether you like it or not, it has its place.

Isn't it technically a "processed cheese product"? Why eat something so intensely boring, when there is so much great cheese out there?

I used to agree with you. Then I read this: https://www.seriouseats.com/2016/07/whats-really-in-american...

The answer to your second question is: Texture. The way process (not "processed") cheese melts is definitely different than similar cheeses. There's a gooeyness and meltability that's unique for applications like a grilled cheese or burger, and good process cheese is just cheese that's been melted with a few salts.

It turns out there are many different American cheeses:

Pasteurized Process Cheese - Various cheeses melted together with an emulsifying agent.

Pasteurized Process Cheese Food - Mostly cheese, but with a higher % of 'the other stuff'.

Pasteurized Process American Slices - Not actually cheese. A vegetable oil horrorshow.

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This topic brings up the issue of wrapping in Japan. Japan is notorious for having excessive wrapping. Individually wrapped cookies in a box with a plastic tray to hold each cookie. The bottom half of the box is sealed with a plastic tear off cover. The top of the box slides over. Then the entire box is wrapped in paper. If you purchase if they will then put it in a branded paper bag. If it's raining they will then p…

> some major major concerted national PR effort against it, getting celebrities, politicians, etc all on board pushing for months or years Why do you need PR when the parties responsible for all this wrapping are corporations ? It’s not the dagashi down the street giving you six layers of wrapping. When big corporations are doing something you don’t like, you don’t use PR to fix it. We’ve had plenty of PR about recyc…

the issue is culture. customers want this. it seems fancy/nice/luxury/high-class. so companies are not going to gut their own sales. If you want it to change imo you need to change the customers' minds so they actually want less wrapping.

corps have changed by PR. no demand = no sales = change.

Re: A History of Individually Wrapped Cheese Slices (1979) [pdf]

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

As someone from Wisconsin it is wrong to even call that stuff "cheese". The plastic wrapping and the contents are pretty much the same thing.

Meh, this is just snobbery. Processed American cheese is still in fact a cheese, and whether you like it or not, it has its place.

>Processed American cheese is still in fact a cheese, and whether you like it or not

Not according to EU law. Over here, Kraft Singles could only be described as "processed slices (made using a blend of cheese, vegetable oils and milk proteins)".

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I can't comment on cheese slices, but as somebody who lives alone and has an appetite resembling a small rodent, I very much appreciate individually wrapped perishables, especially when said wrapping is recyclable/compostable.

I throw out a lot less when I can buy large quantities of smaller "perishable units" at once, vesus shopping little and often.

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Meh, this is just snobbery. Processed American cheese is still in fact a cheese, and whether you like it or not, it has its place.

>Processed American cheese is still in fact a cheese, and whether you like it or not Not according to EU law. Over here, Kraft Singles could only be described as "processed slices (made using a blend of cheese, vegetable oils and milk proteins)".

Same in the US. You have to buy Kraft premium American cheese (or another brand) to get real process American cheese, which is just cheddar plus an emulsifying salt.

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Meh, this is just snobbery. Processed American cheese is still in fact a cheese, and whether you like it or not, it has its place.

>Processed American cheese is still in fact a cheese, and whether you like it or not Not according to EU law. Over here, Kraft Singles could only be described as "processed slices (made using a blend of cheese, vegetable oils and milk proteins)".

Again, this is a type of snobbery, it's just encoded into law. The product tastes like a cheese. It contains the components of a cheese. It is used in applications where a cheese is used. It's not a great cheese, nor a traditional cheese, but it is in every way, functionally, a cheese.

As long as consumers are clearly informed about what they are eating (via labeling) and the food is safe for humans to consume, constructing a legal definition of products like 'cheese', 'ice cream', etc. just seems like pandering to interest groups.

Re: A History of Individually Wrapped Cheese Slices (1979) [pdf]

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This topic brings up the issue of wrapping in Japan. Japan is notorious for having excessive wrapping. Individually wrapped cookies in a box with a plastic tray to hold each cookie. The bottom half of the box is sealed with a plastic tear off cover. The top of the box slides over. Then the entire box is wrapped in paper. If you purchase if they will then put it in a branded paper bag. If it's raining they will then p…

>Individually wrapped cookies in a box with a plastic tray to hold each cookie. When used in cases where an item should be consumed sparingly anyway (as with sweets), I don't see the individual wrappers as excessive. It helps keep the food from spoiling due to exposure, thus prolonging the useful life of the product.

Exactly. In Japan you're not expected to buy a box of cookies and stuff your face with all 1800 calories at once. You take out a couple of them when you have guests over, maybe someone takes one or two, the rest go back in the cupboard until next time.
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