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Consumer DNA tests revealing misattributed parentage

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Re: Consumer DNA tests revealing misattributed parentage

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post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is a vastly simplistic view of rape and sexual assault and comes very close to victim blaming. In many societies there is a stigma attached to sexual assault victims, even in western society many victims get blamed: "why was she wearing that dress?", "why was she in the club on her own if she was in a relationship?", "why did she walk through the park at night on her own?", "maybe she went home with him and just…

I doubt that "for some people the best way to handle their trauma is to never speak of it and pretend it never happened" is actually true. I would like to see some study that proves that. Otherwise you just empower the rapists for no justifiable reason. And even if there is some personal net benefit for not telling anyone. Is it more important than saving others from potentially the same harm?

Has it occurred to you that maybe one of the root causes of so-called ”rape culture” is that would-be rapists do indeed feel thusly empowered?

Re: Consumer DNA tests revealing misattributed parentage

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I dated a girl in the nineties that worked at a maternity ward in a very popular hospital. She said that just comparing blood types five to ten percent of the babies did not belong to the mother’s couple. And of course doctors and nurses never said a word.

Another reason to not want kids.

Re: Consumer DNA tests revealing misattributed parentage

#73
post #7

Some countries, like for example France, make DNA tests pretty much illegal to prevent discovering painful truths like this.

The French government claims that fatherhood is determined by society, and not biology. That is a very unscientific law.

> That is a very unscientific law.

And yours is an extraordinarily myopic view. It should be obvious that fatherhood is more about kinship bond, duty, and obligation than it is about genetics.

Re: Consumer DNA tests revealing misattributed parentage

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post #7

Some countries, like for example France, make DNA tests pretty much illegal to prevent discovering painful truths like this.

The French government claims that fatherhood is determined by society, and not biology. That is a very unscientific law.

It's a claim that the legal relationship between father and children will not rely on DNA relationship, but on the father acknowledging the child as his own.

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post #20

... “This generation right now and maybe the next 15 years or so, there’s going to be a lot of shocking results coming out. I’d say in 20 years’ time it’s going to dissipate,” she predicted. By then, our expectations of privacy will have caught up with the new reality created by the rise of consumer DNA tests. This reminds me of a discussion in which people were speculating about things that would not exist in the fu…

One can not have freedom with out privacy. As we destroy the concept of privacy we also destroy the concept of freedom. It will be interesting how civilization handles it. We are starting to see some signs of push back, but unfortunely people are turning to governments and authoritarianism as a "solution". IMO we are at at fork in civilization, and it seems we are choosing the less free, less private path

Brave New World is winning over 1984.

Re: Consumer DNA tests revealing misattributed parentage

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post #71
post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I doubt that "for some people the best way to handle their trauma is to never speak of it and pretend it never happened" is actually true. I would like to see some study that proves that. Otherwise you just empower the rapists for no justifiable reason. And even if there is some personal net benefit for not telling anyone. Is it more important than saving others from potentially the same harm?

Has it occurred to you that maybe one of the root causes of so-called ”rape culture” is that would-be rapists do indeed feel thusly empowered?

But is there a "rape culture"? I mean there are criminals that commit rape. But what are the reasons to call it a culture. As far as I know, the rape, at least in the western world, is perceived as a terrible thing and is punished by law.

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post #11

Some estimations tell that around 30% of children are not from their official fathers.. People are just unaware of amount of secretes seemingly happy marriages hold

Um no... it's no more than 1-2% in western societies.

It was between 1 in 10 to 1 in 20 prior to DNA testing.

Re: Consumer DNA tests revealing misattributed parentage

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I dated a girl in the nineties that worked at a maternity ward in a very popular hospital. She said that just comparing blood types five to ten percent of the babies did not belong to the mother’s couple. And of course doctors and nurses never said a word.

You mean they mixed up the babies and gave them to the wrong parents?

Re: Consumer DNA tests revealing misattributed parentage

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post #3

There was an interesting thread on reddit where people were sharing their experiences with DNA tests and their parentage/ancestry. I was surprised with sheer number of them being listed/shared there. I never considered DNA tests will have such a weird side effects. It's a fascinating to see how much science or scientific tests in future can lead to weird results (not that I'm condoning cheating or anything) - Thread…

Maybe part of the issue is an over-emphasis on "fidelity". People have always played around - or to be frank, many women have been assaulted and had to keep it quiet - maybe the best outcome would be more open communication and understanding between couples rather than even more prescriptive social norms about how relationships should work.

You word this as if married women being inseminated by other men isn't in the vast majority of cases an unintended consequence of completely intentional behavior. Your "being frank" is framing an incredibly rare situation as primary.
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