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Re: Consumer DNA tests revealing misattributed parentage

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Post by hugh4life » Mon, Jul 30, 2018, 1:29 AM UTC

A little OT and most here probably already know, but genetic genealogy(GEDmatch basically) is starting to be used to solve rape and murder cases.

Here's a recent murder case solved a couple weeks ago they announced just on friday that they used genetic genealogy: http://providencejournal.com/news/20180727/how-dna-and-tatto...

And here's the first instance that I know of of a non-fatal rape case where the technology was used.

https://www.thespectrum.com/story/news/2018/07/28/79-year-ol...

Re: Consumer DNA tests revealing misattributed parentage

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Post by ap3 » Mon, Jul 30, 2018, 1:30 AM UTC

apo wrote: post #20

... “This generation right now and maybe the next 15 years or so, there’s going to be a lot of shocking results coming out. I’d say in 20 years’ time it’s going to dissipate,” she predicted. By then, our expectations of privacy will have caught up with the new reality created by the rise of consumer DNA tests. This reminds me of a discussion in which people were speculating about things that would not exist in the fu…

The youtube/fb/ig/snapchat generations might not even expect it

Re: Consumer DNA tests revealing misattributed parentage

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Post by syshum » Mon, Jul 30, 2018, 1:40 AM UTC

apo wrote: post #20

... “This generation right now and maybe the next 15 years or so, there’s going to be a lot of shocking results coming out. I’d say in 20 years’ time it’s going to dissipate,” she predicted. By then, our expectations of privacy will have caught up with the new reality created by the rise of consumer DNA tests. This reminds me of a discussion in which people were speculating about things that would not exist in the fu…

One can not have freedom with out privacy. As we destroy the concept of privacy we also destroy the concept of freedom.

It will be interesting how civilization handles it. We are starting to see some signs of push back, but unfortunely people are turning to governments and authoritarianism as a "solution".

IMO we are at at fork in civilization, and it seems we are choosing the less free, less private path

Re: Consumer DNA tests revealing misattributed parentage

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Post by syshum » Mon, Jul 30, 2018, 1:43 AM UTC

jacobush wrote: post #8

rjdagost wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The French government claims that fatherhood is determined by society, and not biology. That is a very unscientific law.

How is it unscientific?

How is it not?

Re: Consumer DNA tests revealing misattributed parentage

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Post by [deleted] » Mon, Jul 30, 2018, 1:54 AM UTC

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Re: Consumer DNA tests revealing misattributed parentage

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Post by hugh4life » Mon, Jul 30, 2018, 2:02 AM UTC

juskrey wrote: post #11

Some estimations tell that around 30% of children are not from their official fathers.. People are just unaware of amount of secretes seemingly happy marriages hold

Um no... it's no more than 1-2% in western societies.

Re: Consumer DNA tests revealing misattributed parentage

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Post by [deleted] » Mon, Jul 30, 2018, 2:21 AM UTC

dm8 wrote: post #3

There was an interesting thread on reddit where people were sharing their experiences with DNA tests and their parentage/ancestry. I was surprised with sheer number of them being listed/shared there. I never considered DNA tests will have such a weird side effects. It's a fascinating to see how much science or scientific tests in future can lead to weird results (not that I'm condoning cheating or anything) - Thread…

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Re: Consumer DNA tests revealing misattributed parentage

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Post by dang » Mon, Jul 30, 2018, 2:34 AM UTC

tathougies wrote: post #6

You mean misattributed paternity. Misattributed parentage happens mainly to men. It's a much more involved process to defraud a woman of her child than a man.

We went with the phrase used in the article.

Since some people don't know that they were adopted, it's not just about paternity.

Re: Consumer DNA tests revealing misattributed parentage

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Post by 1996 » Mon, Jul 30, 2018, 3:27 AM UTC

oh_sigh wrote: post #13

jacobush wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is it unscientific?

Maybe anti-scientific would be a better term. The law explicitly prevents people from finding out information about themselves that is encoded into every cell of their being.

Such laws just can't be made to work.

Laws can't fight reality.

Re: Consumer DNA tests revealing misattributed parentage

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Post by dahdum » Mon, Jul 30, 2018, 3:30 AM UTC

starpilot wrote: post #9

dm8 wrote: post #3

There was an interesting thread on reddit where people were sharing their experiences with DNA tests and their parentage/ancestry. I was surprised with sheer number of them being listed/shared there. I never considered DNA tests will have such a weird side effects. It's a fascinating to see how much science or scientific tests in future can lead to weird results (not that I'm condoning cheating or anything) - Thread…

Also in /r/23andme, lots of people finding out they have no Cherokee/Native American heritage after all.

My mother used to say that she was part, despite us being able to trace our entire tree back to Western Europe.

I always figured it was a popular fad to claim in the 70's.