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Melatonin: Much More Than You Wanted to Know

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Re: Melatonin: Much More Than You Wanted to Know

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Post by astronautjones »

slaveofallah93 wrote: post #9
hendzen wrote: post #7

If you regularly buy Melatonin, I highly recommend Trader Joes Brand chewable Melatonin tablets. In my area they cost $2.99 for a bottle, far below the cost of other brands, and the dosage per tablet is 0.5mg or 500mcg which for me is pretty optimal. EDIT: corrected units.

>0.5g or 500mcg I hope you mean 0.5 mg not 0.5g because that would be a very big dose!

Kroger sells 10 mg dissolvable tablets right now (and it's on sale!) - it definitely made me sleep but totally obliterated my metabolism when i was taking it. regulation is definitely needed

Re: Melatonin: Much More Than You Wanted to Know

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Post by mikestew »

astronautjones wrote: post #51
slaveofallah93 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>0.5g or 500mcg I hope you mean 0.5 mg not 0.5g because that would be a very big dose!

Kroger sells 10 mg dissolvable tablets right now (and it's on sale!) - it definitely made me sleep but totally obliterated my metabolism when i was taking it. regulation is definitely needed

10mg?! Holy smokes, 3mg can turn me into a zombie the next day. Oh, I sleep well, but so do the undead.

Re: Melatonin: Much More Than You Wanted to Know

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Post by codenesium »

philwelch wrote: post #36
yosito wrote: post #32

I'm reading HN because I have insomnia after upping my Melatonin dose from 2.5mg to 5mg at the recommendation of my psychiatrist. I've never had the early morning jolt of energy until the last couple of days. Maybe I'll drop my dosage down to 1.75mg tomorrow. That's about the lowest I can get with these 10mg pills.

1.75 mg is still almost an order of magnitude higher than the recommended dose of 300 micrograms . Throw your pills away and get these instead: https://www.amazon.com/Sundown-Naturals-Melatonin-300-Tablet...

If I take 300 micrograms I feel groggy the next day. I do half and that's just right. It's crazy people are doing 3-10mg.

Re: Melatonin: Much More Than You Wanted to Know

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Post by noitsnot »

taeric wrote: post #40

Are there statistics somewhere on how many folks use an alarm clock? Every time I think I have a sleeping problem, I'm always harshly reminded of how different my sleeping habits are by virtue of the fact that I have never used an alarm clock. Something that it seems near universal among everyone else. (Though, I suspect it is just something everyone talks about. Hypothesis being that I'm in the majority, but there i…

If I didn't use an alarm clock I would be unemployed.

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Post by netule »

jaequery wrote: post #30

anyone here tried breathing exercises to help with better sleep? i am noticing that at times when i am taking deep and slow breaths before sleeping, i have a dramatically higher quality sleep.

A 20 minute meditation session before bedtime helps me sleep better.

Re: Melatonin: Much More Than You Wanted to Know

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Post by astronautjones »

mikestew wrote: post #52
astronautjones wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Kroger sells 10 mg dissolvable tablets right now (and it's on sale!) - it definitely made me sleep but totally obliterated my metabolism when i was taking it. regulation is definitely needed

10mg?! Holy smokes, 3mg can turn me into a zombie the next day. Oh, I sleep well, but so do the undead.

It's rolling a 20 when you usually roll an 8. You successfully SLEEP, and there's a bonus!

Re: Melatonin: Much More Than You Wanted to Know

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Post by jambalaya »

elchief wrote: post #14

I used to suffer terrible sleep until recently. Always exhausted in the morning. Sore all over. Missed meetings, or called in sick some days. Would wake up around 11 if I could Now I can wake up around 630 am, lift weights, do HIIT, and be early to work Melatonin wakes me up in the middle of the night. I take Unisom (Doxylamine) as well. Works pretty well in combination I have blackout curtains but I need some light…

If it helps I found melatonin wakes me up in the middle of the night if I take too much of it.

Re: Melatonin: Much More Than You Wanted to Know

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Post by dokem »

atomical wrote: post #16
skadamat wrote: post #8

Every single person here, if your serious about diving into the science of sleep, should read Matthew Walker's book: Why We Sleep: https://www.amazon.com/Why-We-Sleep-Unlocking-Dreams/dp/1501... His interview on Joe Rogan is a good summary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwaWilO_Pig He covers everything from why we sleep (obv), naps, melatonin, etc. I've just finished it and really enjoyed it.

Joe Rogan is one of the biggest propagators of pseudoscience. It's not a good sign when a guest appears on his show. Joe usually tries to rope them into talking about his two favorite health topics: cholesterol and testosterone.

Eh, I've listened to hundreds of his episodes. Some are good for a laugh, some have interesting guests and I learn a thing or two, some I can't make it through. Not everything has to be a text book. What exactly is the problem? I find the unedited, uncensored, long form, 1 on 1, conversational style very appealing - Joe is just a chatter box to keep the guest talking.

Re: Melatonin: Much More Than You Wanted to Know

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Post by geofft »

Re dosages - I recently found melatonin in liquid / dropper bottle form at one of my local drugstores, intended to be mixed into a glass of water or similar. The "dosage" is 1 mg, but that requires 4 droppers - so a single dropper is 250 µg, and it's very easy to do less than that (although not with much accuracy).

If you don't want to buy from some online nootropics store just to get a 300µg dose, check your local drugstore or vitamin store for liquid melatonin, and read the label and see how much each dropper is.

I just took a ~half-dropper with a glass of water because I'm still up. Good night!

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