Sex Scandal Toppled a Silicon Valley Chief. Investors Say, So What?

Post by [deleted] » Sat, Jul 28, 2018, 9:18 PM UTC

jchw wrote: post #31

exogeny wrote: post #27

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Again, it's not really about the relationship. It's about misusing company funds for it, not to mention lying to HR and the board about it. The tone of the comments on this thread so far is basically: if I can’t lie, embezzle, break multiple company regulations, and expose both myself and the company to sexual harassment charges, how am I ever going to meet Mrs. Right? I hope you understand how insane that is.

This is fair, but all the more reason to criticize the article, which does nothing to convince one that this person should be lined up next to people accused of sexual harassment, nor mentions their misuse of funds, even in passing.

Post by rayiner » Sat, Jul 28, 2018, 9:21 PM UTC

squarefoot wrote: post #38

rayiner wrote: post #29

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What we're living in is the vindication of Andrea Dworkin's views about the sexual revolution: https://www.theatlantic.com/sexes/archive/2013/03/how-the-se... . Women are renegotiating the rules in a way that isn't so one-sidedly beneficial to men. Part of that is putting constraints on when and where sexual propositioning is appropriate (and it's not appropriate in the workplace).

"constraints on when and where sexual propositioning is appropriate (and it's not appropriate in the workplace)." That would be right if only we didn't build a society requiring every non rich member to spend most of his non sleeping life at workplace.

Post by cycrutchfield » Sat, Jul 28, 2018, 9:23 PM UTC

squarefoot wrote: post #38

rayiner wrote: post #29

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What we're living in is the vindication of Andrea Dworkin's views about the sexual revolution: https://www.theatlantic.com/sexes/archive/2013/03/how-the-se... . Women are renegotiating the rules in a way that isn't so one-sidedly beneficial to men. Part of that is putting constraints on when and where sexual propositioning is appropriate (and it's not appropriate in the workplace).

"constraints on when and where sexual propositioning is appropriate (and it's not appropriate in the workplace)." That would be right if only we didn't build a society requiring every non rich member to spend most of his non sleeping life at workplace.

Post by harryh » Sat, Jul 28, 2018, 9:24 PM UTC

sverige wrote: post #42

rayiner wrote: post #37

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It's a process that's still shaking out. I strongly suspect dating coworkers will be on the chopping block. Anecdotally: I've never heard a woman say "you know, I wish more people would ask me out at work." They view it as an imposition. Driving those changes will be technology like Tinder. By making the market for dating more efficient, it will reduce the need to permit romantic solicitations in other contexts.

I've had that rule my entire career. I also avoid ever being alone with women at work so that there is no question that I could have done something untoward without a witness. That has prevented a lot of problems for me. It has also probably hindered the careers of some of the women who were my direct and indirect reports, but that's not my problem. I've been waiting for the legislation against those unintended conse…

Post by skookumchuck » Sat, Jul 28, 2018, 9:25 PM UTC

rayiner wrote: post #29

otherworld wrote: post #26

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I agree. We're living in increasingly socially conservative times. Somewhat ironically this seems to be due to the moral superiority of the "left" rather than the traditionalism associated with the right. I also find the implicit assumption that all people who break the current moral codes of the day (even if they did so in the past!) should be henceforth unemployable and the subject of social outrage.

What we're living in is the vindication of Andrea Dworkin's views about the sexual revolution: https://www.theatlantic.com/sexes/archive/2013/03/how-the-se... . Women are renegotiating the rules in a way that isn't so one-sidedly beneficial to men. Part of that is putting constraints on when and where sexual propositioning is appropriate (and it's not appropriate in the workplace).