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Indian warrior king's rocket cache found in abandoned well

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Re: Indian warrior king's rocket cache found in abandoned well

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Post by GW150914 »

sumedh wrote: post #16
swombat wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's no accident though. Divide and Conquer was a core conquest and governance strategy for the British Empire, one that has left scars across the world that are still causing conflict today.

> one that has left scars across the world that are still causing conflict today. How about stopping the British blame game and just accept the fact that humans like to group themselves in a tribe and fight other tribes.

Because some of us can still see the Northern/Republic of Ireland divide and realize that wasn’t an existing divide, but created entirely by the British? Then there’s how they handled Israel, but that’s too much of a can of worms to open here.

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Post by iamgopal »

srean wrote: post #8
baybal2 wrote: post #5

The Tiger of Mysore had a fine war machine. Were he and Maratha to unite, they could've canned British few times over.

Taken care of easily by the British by dividing along Hindu/Muslim lines.

Even today, if someone play hindu muslim can easily win elections.

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Post by sfifs »

baybal2 wrote: post #5

The Tiger of Mysore had a fine war machine. Were he and Maratha to unite, they could've canned British few times over.

I understand compared to Tipu's butchery of Hindus, particularly upper castes, the British were preferable. A massive population (including my own direct ancestors) were forced south and west towards Kerala fleeing Tipu Sultan.

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Post by cryptozeus »

srean wrote: post #19
sumedh wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We are not talking about 100 year old houses, pretty much every Hindu knows about Dwarka. So lack of funding and lack of interest are not good excuses.

I think you missed my point -- we have so much historical artifacts strewn around that we don't value them as much or fund their upkeep as much.

Yup thats a good point. Forget about the submerged dwarka, there is so much old architecture all around in india and no one cares for it or take care of it. We just simply don’t care. Go look at the forts in rajasthan ans how they are treated vs forts jn all around Europe.

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Post by ajmurmann »

srean wrote: post #20
ajmurmann wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure this is a good explanation, since the "drooling" over houses that are merely a hundred years old is pretty much like to the Americas. Yet discoveries in most of Eurasia and Africa are treated really well in general.

That's a very interesting point and was hoping HN'ers would add to my understanding, so thank you. I would be very interested to know how it works, for example, in Rome where "you cant miss a historical artifact if you throw a stone" applies with great force.

Don't know about Rome but in Germany people see it as part of their heritage and identity and get excited when new stuff gets discovered

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Post by Shivetya »

GW150914 wrote: post #21
sumedh wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> one that has left scars across the world that are still causing conflict today. How about stopping the British blame game and just accept the fact that humans like to group themselves in a tribe and fight other tribes.

Because some of us can still see the Northern/Republic of Ireland divide and realize that wasn’t an existing divide, but created entirely by the British? Then there’s how they handled Israel, but that’s too much of a can of worms to open here.

Don't stop with the British, European colonialism is responsible for the majority of issues we have in the Middle East today. Even African is still recovering after the mess left there.

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Post by pbhjpbhj »

wolfgang42 wrote: post #11
godelmachine wrote: post #4

>> “the Mysorean, a prototype of British Congreve rockets used in the Napoleonic wars.” The Mysorean is a prototype of British Congreve rockets? I thought the Brit’s adopted rockets ideas from the Mysorean!

> prototype. n. A first, typical or preliminary model of something... from which other forms are developed or copied. So, yes?

"prototype _for_ British rockets ..."

The "of" suggests an interpretation like "based on", I can see how that phrase could be misinterpreted as an autoantonym.

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Post by pbhjpbhj »

linuxkerneldev wrote: post #14
fellellor wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe true, but that's an alliance that could only be conceived by idle nerds in the history channel. It's like saying, were the Nazis and the Soviets to unite they would have canned the Americans a few times over.

> were the Nazis and the Soviets to unite they would have canned the Americans a few times over Something about that analogy is off. In case we forgot, in the 1800s, the British were the guys advocating and initiating ethnic cleansing of "inferior races" via engineered famines. Various parts of British occupied East India lost a third or more of their population. It was only that regions good fortune of having virule…

>the British were the guys advocating and initiating ethnic cleansing of "inferior races" via engineered famines //

Specific details, citations?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Famine_in_India hints that British inaction exacerbated famine but I don't see details to indicate famine was engineered for ethnic cleansing.

I'm not disagreeing, it's the first I've heard of it really.

There's plenty there to suggest capitalism was working as intended... extracting all the wealth created by others labour, leaving too little for good infrastructure.

Re: Indian warrior king's rocket cache found in abandoned well

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Post by mdani »

Tipu made the first indigenous rocket is a myth. There is ample evidence that the indigenous rockets were in use in Deccan at least 100 years before Tipu’s time. History of Aurangzeb’s reign, the Farsi manuscript of Mathir-i Alamgiri and the official records of the reign called Akhbarat-i Darbar-i Mualla mention Aurangzeb examining an indigenously made rocket at the siege of Satara diring his wars in Deccan in 1700 AD. So its sad to see the myth alive and being reported by British press.
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