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Indian warrior king's rocket cache found in abandoned well

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Re: Indian warrior king's rocket cache found in abandoned well

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>> “the Mysorean, a prototype of British Congreve rockets used in the Napoleonic wars.” The Mysorean is a prototype of British Congreve rockets? I thought the Brit’s adopted rockets ideas from the Mysorean!

> prototype. n. A first, typical or preliminary model of something... from which other forms are developed or copied.

So, yes?

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Maybe true, but that's an alliance that could only be conceived by idle nerds in the history channel. It's like saying, were the Nazis and the Soviets to unite they would have canned the Americans a few times over.

Indeed. In fact, dozens of minor kingdoms submitting without a fight to British is said to be them preferring British to heavy boot of Marathas or Mysorees

That's no accident though. Divide and Conquer was a core conquest and governance strategy for the British Empire, one that has left scars across the world that are still causing conflict today.

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Indeed. In fact, dozens of minor kingdoms submitting without a fight to British is said to be them preferring British to heavy boot of Marathas or Mysorees

That's no accident though. Divide and Conquer was a core conquest and governance strategy for the British Empire, one that has left scars across the world that are still causing conflict today.

Case in point: all national boundaries in Africa, the Middle East and 40% of Asia were created by Europe, mostly the British.

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The Tiger of Mysore had a fine war machine. Were he and Maratha to unite, they could've canned British few times over.

Maybe true, but that's an alliance that could only be conceived by idle nerds in the history channel. It's like saying, were the Nazis and the Soviets to unite they would have canned the Americans a few times over.

> were the Nazis and the Soviets to unite they would have canned the Americans a few times over

Something about that analogy is off. In case we forgot, in the 1800s, the British were the guys advocating and initiating ethnic cleansing of "inferior races" via engineered famines. Various parts of British occupied East India lost a third or more of their population. It was only that regions good fortune of having virulent tropical diseases that kept the British out. The indigenous people in Australia, New Zealand, and other places were not so lucky. The world might have been a better place if the Marathas and the Tipus of the world had united to prevent the subsequent genocides and massive loss and waste of human potential in South Asia.

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Surprisingly this sort of coverup is a common occurrence with any story/history that originates from Ancient India. And it's not just the Western authors who did this. Indian archeologists are to also partly take some blame. The best example is that of the submerged city of Dwarka: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVIsjx5X3QM If it had been any other country, there would be lot's of excavations (example: Great Pyramid…

I will attribute those things to lack of funding, lack of interest of the general populace, and lack of competence and less to malice or conspiracy (as it is often made out to be) -- they stabbed us in our back. Where I went to college in the US there was this house about a hundred odd years old. They would be absolutely drooling at that 'historic' artifact, there aren't as many (physical historical artifacts). Peopl…

We are not talking about 100 year old houses, pretty much every Hindu knows about Dwarka. So lack of funding and lack of interest are not good excuses.

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Indeed. In fact, dozens of minor kingdoms submitting without a fight to British is said to be them preferring British to heavy boot of Marathas or Mysorees

That's no accident though. Divide and Conquer was a core conquest and governance strategy for the British Empire, one that has left scars across the world that are still causing conflict today.

> one that has left scars across the world that are still causing conflict today.

How about stopping the British blame game and just accept the fact that humans like to group themselves in a tribe and fight other tribes.

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post #7
post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Surprisingly this sort of coverup is a common occurrence with any story/history that originates from Ancient India. And it's not just the Western authors who did this. Indian archeologists are to also partly take some blame. The best example is that of the submerged city of Dwarka: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVIsjx5X3QM If it had been any other country, there would be lot's of excavations (example: Great Pyramid…

I will attribute those things to lack of funding, lack of interest of the general populace, and lack of competence and less to malice or conspiracy (as it is often made out to be) -- they stabbed us in our back. Where I went to college in the US there was this house about a hundred odd years old. They would be absolutely drooling at that 'historic' artifact, there aren't as many (physical historical artifacts). Peopl…

I'm not sure this is a good explanation, since the "drooling" over houses that are merely a hundred years old is pretty much like to the Americas. Yet discoveries in most of Eurasia and Africa are treated really well in general.

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Indeed. In fact, dozens of minor kingdoms submitting without a fight to British is said to be them preferring British to heavy boot of Marathas or Mysorees

That's no accident though. Divide and Conquer was a core conquest and governance strategy for the British Empire, one that has left scars across the world that are still causing conflict today.

India has always had conflicts between communities with 100s of individual kingdoms and warlords - some were vassals to bigger kingdoms. The modern day revisionist history tries to paint India as some sort of a united, utopia before the coming of the colonial powers but there is no evidence whatsoever to support that claim while there is plenty of evidence to counter it.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I will attribute those things to lack of funding, lack of interest of the general populace, and lack of competence and less to malice or conspiracy (as it is often made out to be) -- they stabbed us in our back. Where I went to college in the US there was this house about a hundred odd years old. They would be absolutely drooling at that 'historic' artifact, there aren't as many (physical historical artifacts). Peopl…

We are not talking about 100 year old houses, pretty much every Hindu knows about Dwarka. So lack of funding and lack of interest are not good excuses.

I think you missed my point -- we have so much historical artifacts strewn around that we don't value them as much or fund their upkeep as much.

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I will attribute those things to lack of funding, lack of interest of the general populace, and lack of competence and less to malice or conspiracy (as it is often made out to be) -- they stabbed us in our back. Where I went to college in the US there was this house about a hundred odd years old. They would be absolutely drooling at that 'historic' artifact, there aren't as many (physical historical artifacts). Peopl…

I'm not sure this is a good explanation, since the "drooling" over houses that are merely a hundred years old is pretty much like to the Americas. Yet discoveries in most of Eurasia and Africa are treated really well in general.

That's a very interesting point and was hoping HN'ers would add to my understanding, so thank you. I would be very interested to know how it works, for example, in Rome where "you cant miss a historical artifact if you throw a stone" applies with great force.
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