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Worms frozen in permafrost for up to 42,000 years come back to life

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Re: Worms frozen in permafrost for up to 42,000 years come back to life

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I assuem that's the "-lein" in "Fraulein"? Is "-erl" the masculine version?

It is the "-lein" in "Fräulein", but "-lein" isn't only for feminine nouns: the word "Männlein" also exists. I suspect "-erl" is the same, though I don't speak a dialect where it's used; some dialects have "-l" or "-li" which can also attach to any gender of noun (as in "Hansl" and "Gretl")

Awesome, thanks!

Re: Worms frozen in permafrost for up to 42,000 years come back to life

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There are many reasons to doubt that the '240 million year old bacteria' were actually 240 million years old. https://academic.oup.com/mbe/article/18/6/1143/1046940

True, though even without those, we're well past 42,000 years.

It's not noise, it's contamination with modern bacteria.

Re: Worms frozen in permafrost for up to 42,000 years come back to life

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Yes. "Tier" would be an animal of sorts. "chen" is a common suffix for cutiefying something or indicate it's small (and adorable). "Tierchen" would be a cute animal, usually a small one too. The suffixes "-lein" und "-erl" function similarly but have been largely replaced in common german (though in southern germany, both are alive and well)

I assuem that's the "-lein" in "Fraulein"? Is "-erl" the masculine version?

Hmm, interesting to try and pinpoint the difference between "lein" and "erl". I would say they are both diminutive but not exactly in the same way.

erl ... would be more related to the actual size

  Sack -> Sackerl (bag -> small bag)
  Wagen -> Wagerl (cart -> small cart)
lein ... would be more related to the inner size (sorry I can't frame this into words any better)

  Frau -> Fräulein (Woman -> Younger/Fragile woman (unmarried))
  Wagen -> Wäglein (Cart -> smaller but also lesser cart)
edit: referring to the answer of pavel_lishin. Yes "qualitative" modifier was the word I am looking for.

Re: Worms frozen in permafrost for up to 42,000 years come back to life

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Tardigrades are hardcore. From Wikipedia: Tardigrades are considered to be able to survive even complete global mass extinction events due to astrophysical events, such as gamma-ray bursts, or large meteorite impacts. Some of them can withstand extremely cold temperatures down to 1 K (−458 °F; −272 °C) (close to absolute zero), while others can withstand extremely hot temperatures up to 420 K (300 °F; 150 °C) for sev…

Unscientific trope of pure love: In German they are called Bärtierchen (lose translation: bear-thingies) whose name and appearance is reminiscent of gummy-bears.

In English they’re also called water bears.

Re: Worms frozen in permafrost for up to 42,000 years come back to life

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For those who don't catch it, it's from the "the three body problem" book. I highly recommend it to anyone if you like a techy sci fi with philosophical questions.

Actually, its from a full trilogy: “The Three Body Problem”, “The Dark Forest” and “Death’s End”. Wonderful books and indeed wholly recommended to any sci-fi buff.

There's also a ton of cryopreservation in the trilogy, especially the third book.

Re: Worms frozen in permafrost for up to 42,000 years come back to life

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I assuem that's the "-lein" in "Fraulein"? Is "-erl" the masculine version?

Hmm, interesting to try and pinpoint the difference between "lein" and "erl". I would say they are both diminutive but not exactly in the same way. erl ... would be more related to the actual size Sack -> Sackerl (bag -> small bag) Wagen -> Wagerl (cart -> small cart) lein ... would be more related to the inner size (sorry I can't frame this into words any better) Frau -> Fräulein (Woman -> Younger/Fragile woman (unm…

"erl" seems to be a purely quantitative diminutive, whereas "lein" seems to be more of a qualitative modifier, I guess?

Re: Worms frozen in permafrost for up to 42,000 years come back to life

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Halflife under normal circumstances. Deepfreezing it is not the usual for DNA. Just like your meat and vegetables are still edible when you freeze them a year later and spoil in a matter of hours or days at higher temperatures. http://rspb.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/early/2012/10... So that's at 13.1 degrees, quote from the end of that paper: "Our results indicate that short fragments of DNA could be present…

Since (some) nematodes eat poop, could we get viable megafauna DNA this way?

just find the poop and get the DNA from there? What does the worm add?
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