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Bay Area cities are cracking down on free food at tech companies

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Re: Bay Area cities are cracking down on free food at tech companies

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What's worse than heroin? I thought it was the most addictive thing we knew.

carfentanil. 50 000 times stronger than heroine. (allegedly.) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COduXp6Cw3g

What matters is effects per dose, not effects per gram.

Re: Bay Area cities are cracking down on free food at tech companies

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On a good day, I work about 5 hours a day. That's non stop, from about 10.30 until about 4pm, or from about 3pm to 8pm. If I stop for lunch, I stop, and don't get back into it. So I eat lunch at my desk. It's not bad for me. 10 hour days to accomplish half the work is bad.

Why not just skip eating for those hours? Digestion disturbs brain activity anyway.

Because it is hard to be effective at work when you are hungry

Re: Bay Area cities are cracking down on free food at tech companies

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Except of course that the value of the food is not $10 because it is not being bought retail. So the real value is probably more like $2, and even at two full meals per day that would translate to 200 working days times $4 is about $800.

No, value is $10. Cost of ingredients $2. But 'making a nice dish and serving it is labour intensive' and so that brings it up to $9, the remaining $1 would be the profit of the restaurant. A better way to think of it would be how much it would cost otherwise, and it's $10. So the calculation of annual value is pretty much there.

A cafeteria with a ton of business and no need to advertise can probably cut those costs by a couple more dollars though.

Re: Bay Area cities are cracking down on free food at tech companies

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I'd just like to point out that Amazon HQ isn't in California, it's in Washington over near Microsoft, separated by half of California and the state of Oregon. Either way, I hope the same

Poster you're replying to said 'new HQ' indicating their comment was about the place Amazon is shopping to build, not their current Seattle HQ.

Right, but it sounded as if they were implying the old HQ was in Silicon Valley. I'm sure that wasn't the intention, just clarifying for the possibility of readers who may misinterpret.

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It's hard to imagine your local city bus is so unpleasant to be called a dystopian hellscape.

While I was a BART commuter, I walked a gauntlet of slumped-over hard drug users, sprawled-out homeless people, human urine, and feces every day. Fortunately, I've only seen people drop their pants and take a shit on the sidewalk in front of me twice. Missed a random stabbing on the stairwell into my station by about 5 minutes. This is Civic Center Station, which serves Twitter, Uber, and Square. No amount of tech wo…

> video: "... the city's jurisdiction ends when you head down those BART stairs."

That's shocking to me. Get city policy in there if the commuter cops can't handle it.

NYC cops be in there removing people stat if this happened here.

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carfentanil. 50 000 times stronger than heroine. (allegedly.) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COduXp6Cw3g

What matters is effects per dose, not effects per gram.

It matters if you want to smuggle the stuff.

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I've read a number of definitions of slavery coming from a variety of political perspectives. Some go so far as to term hiring anyone who isn't independently wealthy to work for wages "slavery". None of them included giving employees perks in the hope that it will increase their productivity.

They definitely want to increase your productivity, you are right. Your productivity drives their revenue forward. They are willing to contribute small amount of that revenue for giving you free food. But do you really want to be like that? Work harder for free food?

I don't think the purpose of free food is to incentivize employees to work harder. It's to let employees have lunch in the office without having to leave. As mentioned several times in the comments here, employees at companies that provide this option tend to like it.

Re: Bay Area cities are cracking down on free food at tech companies

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Lotta hate for Mountain View in the comments here, which is ironic because with this ordnance Mountain View is trying to fix a problem that tech companies get a lot of hate on HN for. I've got mixed feelings about this, so I'll try and explain both sides: The problem MV's fixing is the perception that highly-paid tech workers have become a class of their own, isolated from the larger communities in which they live an…

> The problem MV's fixing is the perception

That's a lot of regulation to fix a perception. If this doesn't work, will they mandate friendship between employees and others in town?

> connected by pedestrian thoroughfares to the office space that Facebook is about to rent

Why is the city building large office space like this if desires strong interaction between people in town? Even corporate campuses in middle America build cafeterias once the office space is big enough. Food, gyms, etc. just make sense as something to make easily accessible -- nothing new here. What did the city think would happen?

If there's a market for people to dine out, you open a restaurant. If there's a market for people to dine in, you open a delivery kitchen or a catering company. Why does a particular set of dining out behavior need to get preserved? (And when did Chili's become a beacon of community preservation?)

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Why are you assuming there even are restaurants near the office? A bunch of people getting into their cars and clogging up roads at lunch time doesn't sound like an improvement to me.

We’re talking about SF, so unless your office is in Bayview/Visitacion/deep Outer Sunset|Richmond there’s a restaurant within 15 minutes walk

> within 15 minutes walk

So, a half-hour round trip.

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