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A Drop of 4 Degrees Made a Big Difference for a Garment Maker's Bottom Line

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Re: A Drop of 4 Degrees Made a Big Difference for a Garment Maker's Bottom Line

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An alternative way at looking at this is that, if you are pushing your employees to their physical limits, you can squeeze more out of them if you can prevent them from becoming overheated. This is a negative way of looking at it, but I think, unfortunately, that it is realistic. Beyond the short term, the only way this will benefit the workers is if there is something external to limit the ways it can be exploited s…

Not working in 85+ degree temperatures is a benefit on it's own.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I like the plaintext version better too, but when I hit decline it redirects me to the “main page” of the plaintext site which just shows a top 10 stories view. Am I missing how to go see the story from plaintext due to some browser settings or something? Running latest iOS on iPhone 7+

Same problem, the decline (opt-out) seems to make it impossible to read the article. Android chrome.

I feel like the majority of people downvoting my original top level comment haven't had to click the decline/opt-out link.

Re: A Drop of 4 Degrees Made a Big Difference for a Garment Maker's Bottom Line

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I wonder if the spectrum difference in the light sources would also have an effect?

As a fictional example, in Asimov's "Prelude to Foundation" one of the locations (Dahl, a geothermal power district) offset the sweltering heat by running dimmer, reddish lighting, which apparently had a psychological effect on the inhabitants' perception of temperature.

In real life, I wouldn't be surprised if offices choose to run high-colour-temperature lights in order to keep workers more awake and less drowsy (the exact effect that software like F.lux tries to offset).

Re: A Drop of 4 Degrees Made a Big Difference for a Garment Maker's Bottom Line

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An alternative way at looking at this is that, if you are pushing your employees to their physical limits, you can squeeze more out of them if you can prevent them from becoming overheated. This is a negative way of looking at it, but I think, unfortunately, that it is realistic. Beyond the short term, the only way this will benefit the workers is if there is something external to limit the ways it can be exploited s…

Negative? It's how the world works.

Those in resource-driven countries enjoy very little comfort, because you don't need very comfortable/educated people to extract resources.

Our economies are more based on knowledge, so we get better lives.

CGPGrey's rules for rulers is a very good outline of this and other related topics: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rStL7niR7gs

Re: A Drop of 4 Degrees Made a Big Difference for a Garment Maker's Bottom Line

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This is a really interesting article! I recommend anyone just checking out the comments to take a look -- it is quite short. I wonder if there's a real opportunity here. Buy up Indian manufacturing firms with significant books of business and introduce productivity enhancing changes like LED lights. Of course, this is a simplification, but if the effect is as pronounced as described in the article, it seems like a fa…

There are plenty of small businesses in India going through productivity transitions and becoming bigger exporters. Air conditioning has been the easiest gain in the last 2 decades.

More recently it is mobile payments and computerized inventory and financing. The companies making these investments quickly become local franchises or quality exporters who can charge more.

Of course the owners and employees are richer for doing this, beating competition.

Re: A Drop of 4 Degrees Made a Big Difference for a Garment Maker's Bottom Line

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post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

GDPR is criminalizing all websites because compliance is impossible. It puts european officials in exactly the possition they want to be in, everyone is breaking the law an enforcement is a matter of who their friends are. Majors websites are taking steps to remove access from eu. This will only get worse. Be prepared to live in the environmet your politicians have created, or be prepared to come back to planet reali…

> GDPR is criminalizing all websites because compliance is impossible I disagree, compliance isn't particularly difficult unless you're going out of your way to do something harmful to your users. > be prepared to come back to planet reality. Please refrain from hyperboly, I'd much rather a civil discussion about this.

> I disagree, compliance isn't particularly difficult unless you're going out of your way to do something harmful to your users

Article 27 is a big pain for those of us not established in the Union, regardless of whether or not we are doing anything harmful to our users.

Re: A Drop of 4 Degrees Made a Big Difference for a Garment Maker's Bottom Line

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post #21

An alternative way at looking at this is that, if you are pushing your employees to their physical limits, you can squeeze more out of them if you can prevent them from becoming overheated. This is a negative way of looking at it, but I think, unfortunately, that it is realistic. Beyond the short term, the only way this will benefit the workers is if there is something external to limit the ways it can be exploited s…

Not working in 85+ degree temperatures is a benefit on it's own.

That's a fair point, but to me, the article's message seemed to be that the important issue was the productivity gain (just look at the title.) That interpretation, and my response, may well be a biased, to which I can only say that it wasn't my initial response, which was more favorable.

Re: A Drop of 4 Degrees Made a Big Difference for a Garment Maker's Bottom Line

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Sometimes it's useful to remember just how privileged we are to be working in tech...

...many of us get microkitchens with as many La Croix and "delightful" snacks as we can consume. While for others, just a switch to lamps that produce less heat is a major life improvement.

Re: A Drop of 4 Degrees Made a Big Difference for a Garment Maker's Bottom Line

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I wonder if the opposite is true? In my region low income people work seasonally in fish plants. Although now many fish plants hire people from outside the country because they can pay them less.

The fish plants are wet and very cold the workers wear rubber gloves and often have their hands in ice. If 30C is the heat stress threshold is there a cold stress threshold?

Re: A Drop of 4 Degrees Made a Big Difference for a Garment Maker's Bottom Line

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post #25

This is a really interesting article! I recommend anyone just checking out the comments to take a look -- it is quite short. I wonder if there's a real opportunity here. Buy up Indian manufacturing firms with significant books of business and introduce productivity enhancing changes like LED lights. Of course, this is a simplification, but if the effect is as pronounced as described in the article, it seems like a fa…

There are plenty of small businesses in India going through productivity transitions and becoming bigger exporters. Air conditioning has been the easiest gain in the last 2 decades. More recently it is mobile payments and computerized inventory and financing. The companies making these investments quickly become local franchises or quality exporters who can charge more. Of course the owners and employees are richer f…

Do you have some example companies to read about?
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