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A Drop of 4 Degrees Made a Big Difference for a Garment Maker's Bottom Line

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Re: A Drop of 4 Degrees Made a Big Difference for a Garment Maker's Bottom Line

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> Decline and visit plaintext site This doesn't count as opt-out by default behavour for tracking. Have any complaints been made in the EU toward NPR? EDIT: Glad this is getting some attention, whether it be upvoting or downvoting.

Pretty sure NPR shouldn't be particularly concerned about foreign regulations. It's an entirely US based entity.

In that case, why serve the page at all?

Re: A Drop of 4 Degrees Made a Big Difference for a Garment Maker's Bottom Line

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This is a really interesting article! I recommend anyone just checking out the comments to take a look -- it is quite short.

I wonder if there's a real opportunity here. Buy up Indian manufacturing firms with significant books of business and introduce productivity enhancing changes like LED lights. Of course, this is a simplification, but if the effect is as pronounced as described in the article, it seems like a fantastic opportunity.

I rarely see news about how business operates, or stories of business success and decline in India. Does anyone know where I could read more?

Thank you to the moderators for boosting this story after 3 days, it definitely spiked my curiosity. I presently import a few products from China and love learning about the challenges these manufacturers face.

Re: A Drop of 4 Degrees Made a Big Difference for a Garment Maker's Bottom Line

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> Decline and visit plaintext site This doesn't count as opt-out by default behavour for tracking. Have any complaints been made in the EU toward NPR? EDIT: Glad this is getting some attention, whether it be upvoting or downvoting.

Pretty sure NPR shouldn't be particularly concerned about foreign regulations. It's an entirely US based entity.

Lots of regulations eventually shift in people's estimation from "this might be a good idea" when introduced to "this is what God intended" after years of acclimation. The shift seems to have been really fast for this regulation.

Re: A Drop of 4 Degrees Made a Big Difference for a Garment Maker's Bottom Line

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Pretty sure NPR shouldn't be particularly concerned about foreign regulations. It's an entirely US based entity.

In that case, why serve the page at all?

Because that's not how the internet ever worked before this foolishness.

Re: A Drop of 4 Degrees Made a Big Difference for a Garment Maker's Bottom Line

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Pretty sure NPR shouldn't be particularly concerned about foreign regulations. It's an entirely US based entity.

In that case, why serve the page at all?

Dude, they're trying to serve you. It's not as if you paid them anything for TFA. Yet you're perfectly satisfied for them to be threatened from abroad? Wow.

Re: A Drop of 4 Degrees Made a Big Difference for a Garment Maker's Bottom Line

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> Decline and visit plaintext site This doesn't count as opt-out by default behavour for tracking. Have any complaints been made in the EU toward NPR? EDIT: Glad this is getting some attention, whether it be upvoting or downvoting.

You shouldn't make frivolous complaints. You are just adding noise and drowning out the real signal based on your knee jerk reaction to something that you don't like but that is actually perfectly legal and in fact a reasonable solution, after all, you did get to read the article. Personally I prefer the NPR's 'text' version over their fancy one anyway. It loads quicker and doesn't have any of the js nonsense.

I like the plaintext version better too, but when I hit decline it redirects me to the “main page” of the plaintext site which just shows a top 10 stories view. Am I missing how to go see the story from plaintext due to some browser settings or something? Running latest iOS on iPhone 7+

Re: A Drop of 4 Degrees Made a Big Difference for a Garment Maker's Bottom Line

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An alternative way at looking at this is that, if you are pushing your employees to their physical limits, you can squeeze more out of them if you can prevent them from becoming overheated.

This is a negative way of looking at it, but I think, unfortunately, that it is realistic. Beyond the short term, the only way this will benefit the workers is if there is something external to limit the ways it can be exploited solely to increase productivity. Otherwise, the market will do its thing.

Re: A Drop of 4 Degrees Made a Big Difference for a Garment Maker's Bottom Line

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You shouldn't make frivolous complaints. You are just adding noise and drowning out the real signal based on your knee jerk reaction to something that you don't like but that is actually perfectly legal and in fact a reasonable solution, after all, you did get to read the article. Personally I prefer the NPR's 'text' version over their fancy one anyway. It loads quicker and doesn't have any of the js nonsense.

I like the plaintext version better too, but when I hit decline it redirects me to the “main page” of the plaintext site which just shows a top 10 stories view. Am I missing how to go see the story from plaintext due to some browser settings or something? Running latest iOS on iPhone 7+

Same problem, the decline (opt-out) seems to make it impossible to read the article. Android chrome.

Re: A Drop of 4 Degrees Made a Big Difference for a Garment Maker's Bottom Line

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GDPR is criminalizing all websites because compliance is impossible. It puts european officials in exactly the possition they want to be in, everyone is breaking the law an enforcement is a matter of who their friends are. Majors websites are taking steps to remove access from eu. This will only get worse. Be prepared to live in the environmet your politicians have created, or be prepared to come back to planet reali…

> GDPR is criminalizing all websites because compliance is impossible I disagree, compliance isn't particularly difficult unless you're going out of your way to do something harmful to your users. > be prepared to come back to planet reality. Please refrain from hyperboly, I'd much rather a civil discussion about this.

> compliance isn't particularly difficult unless you're going out of your way to do something harmful to your users.

Please stop spreading this FUD. There are tons of architectures (e.g. Apache Kafka) which were totally sane and require total reorganization to become compliant. Dismissing this as "not very difficult" and adding a snide little attack on anybody who disagrees is untrue and an ad hominem to boot.

Complying with GDPR is costly and significant work. If implememtations match legislative aspirations, it could also be a significant boon to consumers. However, legitimate questions about the level of compliance, particularly from companies with unscrupulous business models leave it currently vague whether the boon will be realized in full, in part, or not at all.

Though I know hacker news discourages political discourse and meta, I would interject - almost all political topics have upsides and downsides. Pretending that the downsides don't exist on any policy isn't passionate advocacy - it's just degrading the level of discourse.

Re: A Drop of 4 Degrees Made a Big Difference for a Garment Maker's Bottom Line

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Doesn't it? By default, you're opted out of loading the page altogether. You may then opt in for the full version or remain opted out and continue onto the plaintext version. Personally, I love this implementation.

If opt out were truly the default, it would, in turn here, imply that default behaviour of the site is to serve the plaintext version. This is obviously not the case and has never been the case.

I don't think it's "obviously" not the case. Plain text has been the default since before we had displays. It was not the default for NPR since before GDPR, and now it is.

Moreover, the only image in the article is a non-content header display image. The entire article is plain text. You are experiencing no degradation, and honestly an improvement! (smaller page, less loading, less waiting, easier to manage on smaller screens...) I wish this became the standard for compliance.

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