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Re: Introducing Telegram Passport

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Post by wmf »

derefr wrote: post #14

If this is to deliver your ID for the purposes of KYC laws, then that’s somewhat sensible, I suppose. If, however, this is targeted at the providers who are actually collecting IDs as part of their AML compliance strategy, then there’s a much simpler solution here: just become the ID equivalent of a Certificate Authority. Dedup Telegram accounts by using a unique constraint on accounts’ validated ID documents’ extrac…

Companies that deal with money aren't going to use SSO; they want to own their login system.

Re: Introducing Telegram Passport

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Post by craftyguy »

saltedshiv wrote: post #28
Jtsummers wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If I could only upvote this more. I still want someone to take signal's protocol and do a BYOK approach. Let me use Keybase or something similar to handle identity management. Additionally, each device (or app instance) gets its own key. Signal and WhatsApp already do encrypted group messages. Treat each of my devices as different "users", who present with the same name. It's a tractable problem. (NB: Not necessarily…

Keybase has chat. Available on desktop and at least Android

keybase is a proprietary walled garden.. so.. no thanks.

Re: Introducing Telegram Passport

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Post by nicpottier »

bespoken wrote: post #18

I can't help not to trust telegram with my data, just gut feeling. You cannot use their service without giving your telephone nr. Now they like to have your ID's too. How can they honestly advertise "anonymus chat"? And the double ICO, over a billion fetched. So much money and data, where does that lead to?

I have a similar distrust of Telegram just because of where they started. (and I admit that isn't logical) But I think I trust someone with lots of data AND lots of money than someone who only has lots of data.

Re: Introducing Telegram Passport

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Post by Jtsummers »

saltedshiv wrote: post #28
Jtsummers wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If I could only upvote this more. I still want someone to take signal's protocol and do a BYOK approach. Let me use Keybase or something similar to handle identity management. Additionally, each device (or app instance) gets its own key. Signal and WhatsApp already do encrypted group messages. Treat each of my devices as different "users", who present with the same name. It's a tractable problem. (NB: Not necessarily…

Keybase has chat. Available on desktop and at least Android

Yes. But it doesn’t offer some of the features Signal Protocol does. I do use it though.

Re: Introducing Telegram Passport

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Post by twr »

craftyguy wrote: post #32
saltedshiv wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Keybase has chat. Available on desktop and at least Android

keybase is a proprietary walled garden.. so.. no thanks.

Proprietary? The backend maybe, but the keybase clients are open source. Some of the code is a little rough, and completed API docs would be nice, especially concerning KBFS, which is still missing. It's still under heavy development though, so these shortcomings should be understandable. (I personally won't use it much until I can actually develop my own non-reverse-engineered client, but that's just my requirement.)

I'm guessing you meant non-decentralized?

Re: Introducing Telegram Passport

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Post by amingilani »

This looks rad. Unfortunately, I won't be able to use Telegram Passport. I can't even read this post without a proxy because my government actively blocks Telegram without a publicly given reason.

I wish they'd spend more time figuring out how to get around the domain fronting problem.

Then again I'm rambling.

Re: Introducing Telegram Passport

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Post by marcus_holmes »

reustle wrote: post #3

Would Telegram and others please stop using phone number as a primary source of identity? It's 2018, I have a data only sim and I have no desire to have a phone number.

Same. I'm nomadic at the moment, and have to change sims with each country. I don't have a permanent phone number (or address). I know I'm in a minority, but still... it's like

things businesses assume about people: 1: they have a phone number. 2: they have an address. 3: the country they are in at the moment is the country they live in

Re: Introducing Telegram Passport

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Post by nehemiahjacob »

bespoken wrote: post #18

I can't help not to trust telegram with my data, just gut feeling. You cannot use their service without giving your telephone nr. Now they like to have your ID's too. How can they honestly advertise "anonymus chat"? And the double ICO, over a billion fetched. So much money and data, where does that lead to?

I wouldn't remember a time where telegram claimed anonymous chat. Sure encrypted chat, private chat, not collaborating with fbi for chat history are good things.

But telegram never advertised anonymity as a takeaway.

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