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Google responds to Oracle's patent lawsuit

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Re: Google responds to Oracle's patent lawsuit

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Post by acqq »

misterbwong wrote: post #2

This is a summary posted by Engadget. I thought it'd be more friendly than the full doc. Here's the link to the full document if anyone's interested: http://stadium.weblogsinc.com/engadget/files/oracle-google-a...

And it's a response to this full document:

http://regmedia.co.uk/2010/08/13/oracle_complaint_against_go...

Re: Google responds to Oracle's patent lawsuit

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Post by acqq »

Not a lawyer, but I'd summarize: In Google's view, their use of the parts of the Harmony code as is allowed as the Harmony code is a clean room implementation and Android doesn't use that code to run Java, so there was no need to get licenses from Sun/Oracle. Regarding patents, they simply claim they don't infringe, I don't see that they claim why -- maybe because they don't actually use any code, but the device makers who install them on their hardware?

Re: Google responds to Oracle's patent lawsuit

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Post by btilly »

misterbwong wrote: post #2

This is a summary posted by Engadget. I thought it'd be more friendly than the full doc. Here's the link to the full document if anyone's interested: http://stadium.weblogsinc.com/engadget/files/oracle-google-a...

But the full document is unintentionally hilarious.

The various invocations of

Google is without knowledge or information sufficient to form a belief as to the truth of the allegations of paragraph _, and therefore denies them.

amused me greatly when I looked at what was denied. Similarly there was a lot of Google denies any remaining allegations of paragraph _. when every claim of that paragraph had been admitted.

Re: Google responds to Oracle's patent lawsuit

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Post by latch »

Is it whatsoever possible for Google to get a group of companies together and counter-sue Oracle and Microsoft en masse? I mean Motorola isn't without a strong patent portfolio, and I doubt they'd be the only ones on board?

Forgive me if its a naive thought, but it seems like we might just be seeing the beginning of Google patent issues (and I obviously treat the MS/Motorola thing as a Google patent issue).

Is the risk of pissing off MS/Oracle too great (not for Google, but for potential allies?)

Why haven't they gone nuclear yet?! I wanna see that bad.

Re: Google responds to Oracle's patent lawsuit

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Post by joshstaiger »

btilly wrote: post #8
misterbwong wrote: post #2

This is a summary posted by Engadget. I thought it'd be more friendly than the full doc. Here's the link to the full document if anyone's interested: http://stadium.weblogsinc.com/engadget/files/oracle-google-a...

But the full document is unintentionally hilarious. The various invocations of Google is without knowledge or information sufficient to form a belief as to the truth of the allegations of paragraph _, and therefore denies them. amused me greatly when I looked at what was denied. Similarly there was a lot of Google denies any remaining allegations of paragraph _. when every claim of that paragraph had been admitted.

Not a lawyer, but knowingly infringing on a patent opens one to treble damages: http://www.patent-infringement.org/recover.html

So maybe it’s legal speak for “Regardless of what the patents say, we weren’t aware of them.”

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