Sparrow - The New Mail for Mac • Hacker News Board

Re: Sparrow - The New Mail for Mac

#91

Post by mtrn » Tue, Oct 05, 2010, 10:57 AM UTC

Nice interface, a little CPU-hungry though.

Noticed: Some dates of some of my emails are off (e.g. by a year or some just days). Gmail reports the correct date, so it might got lost during the sync.

Re: Sparrow - The New Mail for Mac

#92

Post by stringbot » Tue, Oct 05, 2010, 1:20 PM UTC

mishmash wrote: post #5

stringbot wrote: post #2

I'll try this as soon as somebody proves to me it doesn't immediately send my GMail password to a Russian spam factory.

Have you tried Little Snitch before?

Is that the app that lets you watch them send your password to the Russian spam factory in real time?

Re: Sparrow - The New Mail for Mac

#93

Post by wazoox » Tue, Oct 05, 2010, 1:35 PM UTC

pyre wrote: post #73

mitjak wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm completely ignorant about that. Are mail clients that problematic? Mail.app seems to do a good job at link detection.

I think the real issue is when urls are longer than 80 characters and your mail client butchers it into pieces with a newline.

usually putting the link between corrects the problem, with most applications I tried at least.

Re: Sparrow - The New Mail for Mac

#94

Post by hugh3 » Tue, Oct 05, 2010, 1:40 PM UTC

Lewisham wrote: post #68

dmlorenzetti wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Based on what other posters have mentioned, I think the OP's point is that double-clicking on a preference item is unintuitive in a Mac app.

Yeah, that's the problem. There's no reason to believe the screen is where you set your signature, let alone double-clicking would result in anything. http://skitch.com/lewisham/d346d/preferences

Brilliantly counter-intuitive. It means that the annoying viral-hook message stays there for everyone who isn't sufficiently annoyed by it to actually go googling for how to get rid of it.

Re: Sparrow - The New Mail for Mac

#95

Post by mishmash » Tue, Oct 05, 2010, 4:51 PM UTC

stringbot wrote: post #92

mishmash wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you tried Little Snitch before?

Is that the app that lets you watch them send your password to the Russian spam factory in real time?

Yep that's the one. Haven't used it in a while but it used to work great.

Re: Sparrow - The New Mail for Mac

#96

Post by marchdown » Tue, Oct 05, 2010, 9:36 PM UTC

hugh3 wrote: post #94

Lewisham wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, that's the problem. There's no reason to believe the screen is where you set your signature, let alone double-clicking would result in anything. http://skitch.com/lewisham/d346d/preferences

Brilliantly counter-intuitive. It means that the annoying viral-hook message stays there for everyone who isn't sufficiently annoyed by it to actually go googling for how to get rid of it.

For what it's worth, I didn't waste a single click when deleting signature, went straight for it, though I agree that it is unintuitive in principle and that there were not enough contextual cues.

Re: Sparrow - The New Mail for Mac

#97

Post by srmagneeto » Wed, Oct 06, 2010, 12:34 AM UTC

It seems developers are looking for glorified reviews (Daring Fireball, Macgasm, etc) and concentrating little on the problems. You can take the app, and shove it. It does nothing the web interface doesn't.

Re: Sparrow - The New Mail for Mac

#98

Post by stevederico » Wed, Oct 06, 2010, 1:31 AM UTC

I love the app. The minimal design is exactly what I was looking for in a desktop mail app. The Gmail intregration was excellent and took a lot of hassel out to setting up the app. I have since recommended this applciation to my friends and family, especially because it is so easy to setup.

One note, when I saw the "Star" I thought it would be correlated with my gmail stars, but it appears these are local stars. Other users may have been confused by this as well.

Love the app, and you should put up a donate button on your site or in the app. I would pay for this.

Re: Sparrow - The New Mail for Mac

#99

Post by botolo86 » Mon, Oct 11, 2010, 1:54 AM UTC

We really need these kind of applications on the Mac. I love Tweetie and I love the way you can create a tweet using a global shortcut. It makes me forget that I have Tweetie open and as soon as I realize I have something to say - boom (as Steve Jobs would say) - I have the window for a new tweet open on my desktop!

Re: Sparrow - The New Mail for Mac

#100

Post by alextgordon » Mon, Oct 11, 2010, 3:40 AM UTC

andfarm wrote: post #50

redfloatplane wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, a small correction. Certain ones, most notably iStat Menus, can be moved with command-click. In the old days, a hack was used to make this work by tricking the system into thinking it was a built-in, but unused, menubar item, often the drawing tablet's status item. I believe this was done through a "haxie", from Unsanity. I'm not sure how iStat Menus does it, but I'd hazard a guess at the same way. Disclaimer:…

iStat Menus works the same way, yes. The private API is called NSMenuExtra. It's considerably different from NSStatusItem in that NSStatusItems are created by an open application, whereas NSMenuExtras are created by plugins to SystemUIServer. (This makes stability an issue in NSMenuExtras, as one crashy plugin will make the whole status area disappear.)

This makes stability an issue in NSMenuExtras, as one crashy plugin will make the whole status area disappear.

Is that what happens now? They used to make the whole windowserver disappear. Not fun.

I honestly can't understand why Apple doesn't improve support for plain NSStatusItems. There's no reason why they can't have command-drag remove and reordering as well. They're just windows, after all.