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Toronto adds more tech jobs than Silicon Valley in past 5 years

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Re: Toronto adds more tech jobs than Silicon Valley in past 5 years

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Post by klipt »

nailer wrote: post #114
klipt wrote: post #61

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When Trump's travel ban rolled out and people with green cards were being blocked at the border, I was terrified. Thank goodness the courts struck down that version. My wife and I aren't from any of the blocked countries, but who knows how the list could have grown at Trump's whim and current "enemy of the week".

Sure but Canada isn't on that list. How has being a migrant to the US changed for most people recently?

Most of us are not from Canada. Canada is only 0.5% of the world's population, after all.

Re: Toronto adds more tech jobs than Silicon Valley in past 5 years

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Post by ekovarski »

dkonieczek wrote: post #92
DKnoll wrote: post #28

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You don't need to live downtown. I commute via car from Port Credit where I have an $850/mo bachelor apartment and work at Queen and Bathurst.

No one is taking account the demographic that are likely to move to Toronto. If you have a partner or significant other, it's not worth relocating to Toronto. Tech job's salaries are already considered extremely high here, but the majority of other jobs don't come close outside a few industries such as medical. Not to mention, non-tech industries are not booming like the tech industry, so even finding a decent job is…

Socialize? People are too busy working to afford living in the big smoke. :)

All joking aside, some folks I've known driven from St Catherine every day to work in the core. Summer wasn't too bad, winter they left at 4am and got home around 10pm just to rinse and repeat. Hardly got to see his kids. Truly not sure what they told themselves to keep doing it every day as to me it was simply insane.

Re: Toronto adds more tech jobs than Silicon Valley in past 5 years

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Post by acchow »

faramarz wrote: post #52
ttt111222333 wrote: post #27

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There are no big companies in Toronto that have tech jobs. Google, Facebook, Airbnb, Uber, etc. don't have tech jobs in Toronto. Amazon just started adding tech jobs in Toronto in the past maybe year or two and Shopify is the only exception to this rule. If any toronto natives know of some big companies in Toronto with tech jobs please prove me wrong.

Plenty! Muse, Google, Facebook, Softchoice, IBM, ALL major banks have a tech arm now, like Scotia Banks Digital Factory, CIBC Live Labs ,etc., and other tech companies, Flip, Wave, Freshbooks, Wattpad (raised major vc money), Ritual (raised 75m this year), TribalScale, Worktango, just to name a few.

Google has an engineering office in Toronto?

Are you sure you're not thinking of kitchener-waterloo?

Re: Toronto adds more tech jobs than Silicon Valley in past 5 years

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Post by acchow »

randomdata wrote: post #107
true_tuna wrote: post #85

Did they add enough housing to match? Asking for a friend.

Jobs only come into existence once they are being done, so presumably the people who are doing them them are living somewhere.

Doesn't mean housing is built.

San Francisco builds 1 unit of housing for every 1.8 jobs. This means tons of people commute into the city from elsewhere, and lots of living rooms converted into de-facto bedrooms.

Re: Toronto adds more tech jobs than Silicon Valley in past 5 years

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Post by randomdata »

acchow wrote: post #144
randomdata wrote: post #107

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Jobs only come into existence once they are being done, so presumably the people who are doing them them are living somewhere.

Doesn't mean housing is built. San Francisco builds 1 unit of housing for every 1.8 jobs. This means tons of people commute into the city from elsewhere, and lots of living rooms converted into de-facto bedrooms.

Certainly, but that still describes enough housing. Unless there is an indication that these tech workers are living on the street homeless?

Re: Toronto adds more tech jobs than Silicon Valley in past 5 years

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Post by acchow »

randomdata wrote: post #145
acchow wrote: post #144

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Doesn't mean housing is built. San Francisco builds 1 unit of housing for every 1.8 jobs. This means tons of people commute into the city from elsewhere, and lots of living rooms converted into de-facto bedrooms.

Certainly, but that still describes enough housing. Unless there is an indication that these tech workers are living on the street homeless?

> living rooms converted into de-facto bedrooms

> but that still describes enough housing

At what point does it not describe enough housing? 3 bunk beds in the living room and 2 bunk beds per bedroom? Someone living in the bathtub?

Re: Toronto adds more tech jobs than Silicon Valley in past 5 years

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Post by randomdata »

acchow wrote: post #146
randomdata wrote: post #145

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Certainly, but that still describes enough housing. Unless there is an indication that these tech workers are living on the street homeless?

> living rooms converted into de-facto bedrooms > but that still describes enough housing At what point does it not describe enough housing? 3 bunk beds in the living room and 2 bunk beds per bedroom? Someone living in the bathtub?

Good question. If someone has a tech career, which should provide sufficient income to be able to afford to leave town and head for a place where housing is more abundant, but decides to stay anyway, then presumably they can be considered to have housing. I am not sure it is fair for us to judge how people choose to live within those houses. If sleeping in a living room is your thing, more power to you.

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Post by nailer »

s73v3r_ wrote: post #139
nailer wrote: post #123

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That's been happening for a while and only affects illegal immigration though.

Only? Those are human beings too. And it was also affecting those attempting to seek asylum.

Only. Because we are discussing tech workers.

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Post by faramarz »

acchow wrote: post #143
faramarz wrote: post #52

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Plenty! Muse, Google, Facebook, Softchoice, IBM, ALL major banks have a tech arm now, like Scotia Banks Digital Factory, CIBC Live Labs ,etc., and other tech companies, Flip, Wave, Freshbooks, Wattpad (raised major vc money), Ritual (raised 75m this year), TribalScale, Worktango, just to name a few.

Google has an engineering office in Toronto? Are you sure you're not thinking of kitchener-waterloo?

I'm pretty sure Google Brain has a strong presence in Toronto.

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Post by baybal2 »

JPKab wrote: post #72
bdamm wrote: post #54

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Wow, CDN$2k for a nice 1-bedroom shoebox? That's great! Take a look at San Francisco's equivalents, where you'll pay USD$3k or more for rough equivalence; that's about 2x the price. Things get more extreme when you start talking about home ownership. Toronto COL might feel expensive now but it can definitely get a lot more expensive.

The weather in Toronto is god awful compared to San Francisco. Honestly, it's bad compared to almost any US city. I get why Vancouver is so expensive, but never understood Toronto's prices.

Rich from all over the world come to Canada to live or spend money, not to say, local *median" (emphasis, not average) income is quite high.
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