Earlier quoted context omitted.
18% is not a quarter.
Looks like 20.02% currently. [1] [1] - https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/FB
Yes I didn't get the latest stock price, but I think the point stands.
Facebook finally hands over leave campaign Brexit ads
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Re: Facebook finally hands over leave campaign Brexit ads
#12I'm trying to understand the article's premise. Is all political advertising immoral? Is it something about the way the ads were distributed that make them immoral? Is it just immoral because the politics itself was "wrong"?
The leave campaigns were recently found to be in violation of election law, so no, this isn't just a "moral" issue:
> the Electoral Commission found that the youth-focused campaign, BeLeave, had been joint-working with the official Vote Leave campaign — yet the pair had not jointly declared spending thereby enabling the official campaign to overspend by almost half a million pounds. And that overspend went straight to Aggregate IQ to run targeted Facebook ads.
More broadly, we're in a new era of political advertising that we haven't fully grappled with yet. It used to be that all of your advertising was public, so it was possible to see what promises are being made, what kind of terminology is being used, etc. etc. In the Facebook era you can hyper-target your ads to only show to a small subsection of people, without anyone knowing what you're saying. Facebook's recent moves have meant that advertisers have to publicly disclose all the ads they are showing to avoid this issue, but it wasn't retroactive. This data is from before Facebook disclosed that information.
Re: Facebook finally hands over leave campaign Brexit ads
#13Can someone parse this sentence?
"Leave" was the slogan and the name of the "Let's leave the EU" group who advocated (and still do) for voting for leaving the EU.
Re: Facebook finally hands over leave campaign Brexit ads
#14What about Remain Campaign ads?
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Re: Facebook finally hands over leave campaign Brexit ads
#15I'm trying to understand the article's premise. Is all political advertising immoral? Is it something about the way the ads were distributed that make them immoral? Is it just immoral because the politics itself was "wrong"?
The UK has a regulator and rules about commercial advertising, but last I checked neither apply to political advertising. In normal elections there's often a row about some advert or other (eg the Tony Blair demon eyes poster) but nothing much comes of it. In this case there is a widespread view that the referendum was decided by misinformed voters and activists are trying to intervene on that basis to halt Brexit.
> misinformed voters
I have this notion that EU votes are repeated the number of times necessary to have the 'informed' result win.
Re: Facebook finally hands over leave campaign Brexit ads
#16It's disappointing, but not surprising, that the focus seems to be entirely on the "wrong" side of the "desired" outcome.
At this point it amounts to fighting very hard to find any reason to undo a democratically determined result.
Re: Facebook finally hands over leave campaign Brexit ads
#17I'm trying to understand the article's premise. Is all political advertising immoral? Is it something about the way the ads were distributed that make them immoral? Is it just immoral because the politics itself was "wrong"?
It’s time to stop being silly and look at the wider picture.
All of these activities are connected and are related to Russian money essentially. The USA and the UK at least seem to be related, and very likely Israel is involved as well (targeting Iran).
Add to this the Arron Banks and the diamond deal attempt with a Russian company, and pieces start falling into place. Corruption around Russian money in excahnge for political influence in the west, to get Russia off the sanctions which are killing its economy (what ever is left of it).
I’m sure there’s more and we will find out more as the instituations involved will start kicking back. Hopefully not too late.
Re: Facebook finally hands over leave campaign Brexit ads
#18What about Remain Campaign ads?
The Remain campaigns weren't found to be in violation of election law.
Re: Facebook finally hands over leave campaign Brexit ads
#19I'm trying to understand the article's premise. Is all political advertising immoral? Is it something about the way the ads were distributed that make them immoral? Is it just immoral because the politics itself was "wrong"?
The UK has a regulator and rules about commercial advertising, but last I checked neither apply to political advertising. In normal elections there's often a row about some advert or other (eg the Tony Blair demon eyes poster) but nothing much comes of it. In this case there is a widespread view that the referendum was decided by misinformed voters and activists are trying to intervene on that basis to halt Brexit.
There are very specific rules around political advertising.
https://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/our-work/roles-and-re...
Re: Facebook finally hands over leave campaign Brexit ads
#20If the outcomes of a vote are different than what your political party wanted -- just nullify the vote explaining it was manipulated. Screw trying to figure out why. It is dictatorship 101.