Liquid water 'lake' revealed on Mars

Post by jibal » Thu, Jul 26, 2018, 6:18 AM UTC

pc86 wrote: post #185

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I was talking to an oncologist yesterday. Her biggest frustration is that Silicon Valley billionaires are spending billions upon billions to send things to space, when there are serious problems on Earth that could be fought, most importantly cancer. It’s hard to argue with her. $400B/yr would fund a lot of research that would benefit humanity a lot better than a coordinated mission to Mars, even though it would be v…

An oncologist wishing more money was spent on cancer? In other news, water is wet. First of all, the optimal place for me to spend my money is not necessarily the optimal place for someone else to spend theirs. We can't know for sure, of course, but who were would have preferred Elon Musk start a cancer research firm instead of SpaceX? Secondly, there is no universal "cancer" that we can fight. There are hundreds of…

Post by lihaciudaniel » Thu, Jul 26, 2018, 6:22 AM UTC

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Just finished "Red Mars", the book aged quite well for the scifi genre. SPOILER ALERT: The book ends with a dissident faction of Mars settlers living in a hidden water ice dome under the polar cap.

Post by TeMPOraL » Thu, Jul 26, 2018, 6:45 AM UTC

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That's literally how the famous Hubble Ultra-Deep Field photo came to be. They pointed the Hubble to the most boring spot on the sky they could find, just to see what's there.

You don't understand what "literally", "random", or "boring" mean. The Hubble was pointed at an apparently "empty" area ... that was anything but random: "Wiliams suspected the billion light-year stare might capture eons of galactic evolution in a single frame and uncover some of the faintest, farthest galaxies ever seen. And to him, the potential observations were so important and so fundamental for understanding ho…

Post by dizzystar » Thu, Jul 26, 2018, 6:50 AM UTC

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For any exploratory drilling, or covering any real amount of ground, you need humans. For reference, Opportunity Rover has only traveled 45 km/28 mi in 14 years. A human can collect more specimens in a day than ALL of the rovers have to date. If we remove this year's launch window, you have 10 minimum-energy launch windows in the next 21 years. 2020, 2022, 2024, 2026, 2029, 2031, 2033, 2035, 2037, 2039. If we could g…

I was talking to an oncologist yesterday. Her biggest frustration is that Silicon Valley billionaires are spending billions upon billions to send things to space, when there are serious problems on Earth that could be fought, most importantly cancer. It’s hard to argue with her. $400B/yr would fund a lot of research that would benefit humanity a lot better than a coordinated mission to Mars, even though it would be v…

Post by Jaruzel » Thu, Jul 26, 2018, 7:03 AM UTC

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I think the dialogue quoted here demonstrates the underlying issue that is lost in futurist thought. No one "pioneered the west". Various groups of people with powerful technology traveled west and stole land from other groups of people. They also traveled south and east and used that technical and economic power to enslave other humans and forced them to develop the west. Development and progress for progress' sake…

Of course predatory mammals pioneered the West. Like all predatory mammals; we went in search of better hunting, better hunting grounds and better mates. We still do that today. Imo we will still do that 10,000 years from now... because deep down we are what we are. Edit: We're even "worse" than I gave us credit for. " https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-34011026"