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Re: Toronto adds more tech jobs than Silicon Valley in past 5 years

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Post by mthoms »

rpeden wrote: post #11
rublev wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Its housing is just as unaffordable What? It's not even remotely close.

Not in absolute terms, but it's closer when you compare housing cost vs compensation, I think. The cost of rental housing has jumped up quite a bit recently, too. When I was looking for a place to live in 2015, I saw quite a few condos for rent right downtown for $1700-1800 a month. Now I see units in those same buildings renting for $2300 a month and up. Still cheaper than SV, I suppose? And if you don't mind a bit…

> Not in absolute terms

Well no-one is saying that Toronto is better than SV "in absolute terms" either. Just that more tech jobs were added.

Re: Toronto adds more tech jobs than Silicon Valley in past 5 years

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Post by [deleted] »

miguelrochefort wrote: post #10
fouc wrote: post #8

I think the "senior" web developers with less than 5 years work history seem to be earning $90K/year, which seems low. Any thoughts?

I don't know any Canadian developer with less than 5 years of experience earning $90k/year. Most developers I know with more than 5 years of experience earn less than $90k/year.

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Re: Toronto adds more tech jobs than Silicon Valley in past 5 years

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Post by neivin »

As a Toronto native, who now lives in Silicon Valley (part of the brain drain from Waterloo), there is a reason why everyone leaves Toronto/Canada - the salaries are simply laughable when compared to the bay area.

The only reason you would stay in Toronto for a job in tech is if you wanted to stay close to family, or your girlfriend/boyfriend/spouse.

Or, you just hate money and being at the center of the tech industry...

Re: Toronto adds more tech jobs than Silicon Valley in past 5 years

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Post by s73v3r_ »

jrockway wrote: post #12
fouc wrote: post #8

I think the "senior" web developers with less than 5 years work history seem to be earning $90K/year, which seems low. Any thoughts?

My thought is, why take the job if you aren't happy with the compensation?

Everyone is forced to have a job.

Re: Toronto adds more tech jobs than Silicon Valley in past 5 years

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Post by jherdman »

neivin wrote: post #24

As a Toronto native, who now lives in Silicon Valley (part of the brain drain from Waterloo), there is a reason why everyone leaves Toronto/Canada - the salaries are simply laughable when compared to the bay area. The only reason you would stay in Toronto for a job in tech is if you wanted to stay close to family, or your girlfriend/boyfriend/spouse. Or, you just hate money and being at the center of the tech industr…

Or, you know, political reasons. This seems to be a motivator for myself and my peers in the Toronto scene.

Re: Toronto adds more tech jobs than Silicon Valley in past 5 years

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Post by ttt111222333 »

neivin wrote: post #24

As a Toronto native, who now lives in Silicon Valley (part of the brain drain from Waterloo), there is a reason why everyone leaves Toronto/Canada - the salaries are simply laughable when compared to the bay area. The only reason you would stay in Toronto for a job in tech is if you wanted to stay close to family, or your girlfriend/boyfriend/spouse. Or, you just hate money and being at the center of the tech industr…

There are no big companies in Toronto that have tech jobs. Google, Facebook, Airbnb, Uber, etc. don't have tech jobs in Toronto. Amazon just started adding tech jobs in Toronto in the past maybe year or two and Shopify is the only exception to this rule.

If any toronto natives know of some big companies in Toronto with tech jobs please prove me wrong.

Re: Toronto adds more tech jobs than Silicon Valley in past 5 years

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Post by DKnoll »

dkonieczek wrote: post #18

I'm a Toronto native and have been working as a dev for the past two years. COL is extremely high compared to salaries. This is likely the biggest problem for anyone looking to move here. For example, a small 1 bedroom condo downtown will run you at least CA$2k a month. For a larger 1 bedroom or 1+den your easily looking at $2-3k in today's demanding market. Public transit is usually a hit or miss during rush hour. I…

You don't need to live downtown. I commute via car from Port Credit where I have an $850/mo bachelor apartment and work at Queen and Bathurst.

Re: Toronto adds more tech jobs than Silicon Valley in past 5 years

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Post by rescripting »

jherdman wrote: post #26
neivin wrote: post #24

As a Toronto native, who now lives in Silicon Valley (part of the brain drain from Waterloo), there is a reason why everyone leaves Toronto/Canada - the salaries are simply laughable when compared to the bay area. The only reason you would stay in Toronto for a job in tech is if you wanted to stay close to family, or your girlfriend/boyfriend/spouse. Or, you just hate money and being at the center of the tech industr…

Or, you know, political reasons. This seems to be a motivator for myself and my peers in the Toronto scene.

Not sure why you're being downvoted; it's not exactly the best time to be an immigrant in America.

Maybe if you're not a visible minority and never leave the valley you could stick your thumbs in your ears and just cash the cheques.

Re: Toronto adds more tech jobs than Silicon Valley in past 5 years

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Post by wetpaws »

rescripting wrote: post #29
jherdman wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or, you know, political reasons. This seems to be a motivator for myself and my peers in the Toronto scene.

Not sure why you're being downvoted; it's not exactly the best time to be an immigrant in America. Maybe if you're not a visible minority and never leave the valley you could stick your thumbs in your ears and just cash the cheques.

Canada is not exactly perfect either.
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