I doubt if this patch will decrease the lifespan of MacBook. Because for silicon chips, 10 degree Celsius rise in operating temperature will roughly decrease life span by half. If Apple relax the temperature constraint by 20 degree Celsius (e.g. from 50 degree to 70 degree), it is expected that the lifespan of some component will decrease by 75%.
Apple releases software fix for MacBook Pro slowdown
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Re: Apple releases software fix for MacBook Pro slowdown
#132Even with the fix, I'm afraid you're still shilling out a lot of money for top hardware that can't be used to its maximum extent. Because of the thin form factor limitations, insufficient thermal design and possibly even something as silly as not using the best thermal paste. And the system as a whole will still run quite hot for high CPU+GPU loads, so who knows how that affects the electronics and battery life longe…
They're still very good when you consider everything across the board, including the battery life, ecosystem and support, and apparently the best in some areas like SSD performance:
[0] https://www.macrumors.com/2018/07/13/2018-macbook-pro-fastes...
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> they have tremendous brand loyalty, but will need to be more careful in the future. Does that really matter though? I was just discussing this with someone over the weekend... his thesis was that people buy Apple because of branding, which might be true as far as the majority of customers are concerned... But for people like me (powerusers), MacBooks are simply the best possible choice. Everything else is either ad…
I've had no driver problems running linux on my laptop, just sayin.
I don't have driver problems if I actively fix them, but I haven't had a linux laptop just work basically ever.
Currently, my XPS 15 with Xubuntu doesn't function after coming back from suspend and I haven't bothered to dig into why. I don't mind, but it's absolutely not a problem I experienced with windows on the same hardware or any mac I've ever owned.
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And yet, we've survived more "gates" without Jobs in the past few years as well. Batterygate recently, or bendgate?
I always felt "bendgate" was a non-issue. Just a bunch of hipsters who were too dumb to understand that you don't put a phone in the back pocket of your skinny jeans. It's a slab of glass. What kind of person thinks that's a good idea?
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If you look carefully, Apple (and probably other manufacturers) call their portable computers "notebooks" and not "laptops" because using a computer on your lap is bad both thermally and ergonomically.
Laptop and notebook is the same thing...
... except that one conspicuously avoids the assertion that one should use it on one's lap.
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You claim to be a "poweruser", but then go and speak out of pure ignorance when it comes to Linux. You say "Apple hardware is beyond superior", when in reality Apple glorifies form over function with soldered, unserviceable parts (and actively lobbies against self-repair), and removal of ports (very anti-poweruser, if you ask me), all of which turn their laptops into disposable gadgets meant for the consumer demograp…
Really? What's the best Linux distro/toolset to use in order to get anything to show up in a usable way in HDPI? I don't think you can buy new monitors anymore that are at low enough a resolution to support modern Linux.
Two classic form factors are still readily available: 1920x1200 or 1920x1080 at 24", and 2560x1440 at 27".
All the ultrawide 21:9 screens are "LoDPI" as well, and at 1440p or 1600p they're great for coding.
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#137Is this really a software bug or are they now going to have heat related failures by voiding Intel's specs?
Just running an already hot laptop hotter can't be good.
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> I don't see how you can get more cooling with a firmware change when the fans are already going at full speed It's not about what you do when the temperature if at its peaks and the fans are going at full speed, it's about how you avoid getting there. > How is this going to impact some of those bad solder joints MacBooks are famous for? When did MacBooks became famous for "bad solder joints"?
When did MacBooks became famous for "bad solder joints"? Have you noticed how low the bar is for "famous" these days? Whether it's some FaceTube "star" or tech "scandal" du jour, everything is massive these days and everyone on the planet is affected. Somehow, there are no small issues anymore.
Hey, now. Don't go robbing the masses of their Two Minutes Hate.
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This is basically the story of the modern world as viewed through the distorting lens that is media (and especially social media). I wish people would take the two sentences you wrote and then use them as a corrective lens that undoes this distorted perspective.
Yeah it’s really hard to correct the perspective to the truth though if all you have is social media. Honestly I’ve been putting less and less trust in almost all my sources of knowledge recently.
It's so, so strange that 10-20 years ago my parents told me not to trust what I read on the internet...and now that they're all using it they have seem forgotten their own advice.
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It's pretty trivial to disable all of the telemetry in windows 10. I'm not saying microsoft should get a pass for such nonsense but it's a little over the top to act like windows 10 is DOA botnet.
Whether it's trivial is irrelevant. It should never need to be done. Ads and tracking in the default OS is a scummy move by Microsoft.
Ubuntu did it with Amazon. Mozilla did it with Pocket. I'm sure there are endless other examples.
Dismissing windows 10 as merely "adware" is inflammatory to the point of meaninglessness. It's really the kind of rhetoric I would expect on /g/ not here. The OP has also been rightly called out by others for his broad dismissal of linux.