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Apple releases software fix for MacBook Pro slowdown

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Re: Apple releases software fix for MacBook Pro slowdown

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Why would anyone put a high end laptop on their legs while doing a prolonged intensive task such as video rendering??

You never need to compile things sitting in a coffee shop? I do it at least two three times a week.

So you put it on your bare legs? That's a good do-it-yourself vasectomy alternative.

Re: Apple releases software fix for MacBook Pro slowdown

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Huge performance difference - how did they not notice before?

The article made it seem like this only affected a small number of units? Their quality control probably doesn’t look at every single unit. Although it’s interesting that they didn’t find it at all, since reading HN and reddit gave me the impression it was very widespread.

Apple always claims their issues affect a small number of units. I have seen zero people that tested the i9 MBP and did not see major throttling. The issue is clearly the result of a fundamental defect in how they were managing power and thermals.

Re: Apple releases software fix for MacBook Pro slowdown

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Probably the MSR_TURBO_POWER_LIMIT value as described in https://www.reddit.com/r/macbookpro/comments/91256u/optimal_...

That analysis is incredible, how was the OP able to figure all of that out!?

I've experienced some early adopter pains with the desktop version of this CPU (x299 platform) when it came out and I used linux kernel mailing list to search for answers. I was surprised how easy it was to read the code of the related kernel modules and interact with their authors (Intel engineers).

These "magic codes" are probably just #define macros somewhere in the kernel repo, in my case it was in [1]

[1] https://github.com/torvalds/linux/tree/master/drivers/platfo...

Re: Apple releases software fix for MacBook Pro slowdown

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> I don't see how you can get more cooling with a firmware change when the fans are already going at full speed It's not about what you do when the temperature if at its peaks and the fans are going at full speed, it's about how you avoid getting there. > How is this going to impact some of those bad solder joints MacBooks are famous for? When did MacBooks became famous for "bad solder joints"?

Watch a bunch of Louis Rossman YouTube videos. He knows all about the seedy underbelly of Macbook hardware design mistakes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AcEt073Uds

A few things that I take issue with here:

1) Louis Rossman has a vested interest in drumming up attention for his videos and has, on multiple occasions, used false statements and misleading practices to do so. Just like in the initial release video of the Touch Bar MBPs where he used an unshielded USB-A to USB-C cable and then complained that WiFi wasn't working. When used with a shielded cable, the issue went away and yet he never issued a correction or retraction. The issue was with the adapter he used, not the computer. Which leads directly to...

2) The issue stated in that video that required reballing was an issue with nVidia chips and affected all laptops that used that platform, both PC and Mac. To suggest that it was an engineering issue on Apple's part is disingenuous and only further reinforces the idea that he's not making these videos to be helpful but to drive traffic to his channel and repairs to his store.

3) Just look at how he used the Linus story to get the repair done at his shop. He has a pattern and, unlike what most people think, it's not altruistic. It's all to benefit him. I don't blame him but let's not pretend that he's doing this because he cares about users or the "right to repair" movement. He cares because he can mislabel and misconstrue the positions of the people against it to benefit his business. He'd love it if Apple was forced to provide him schematics and docs. He's in it for himself.

Re: Apple releases software fix for MacBook Pro slowdown

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Why would anyone put a high end laptop on their legs while doing a prolonged intensive task such as video rendering??

You never need to compile things sitting in a coffee shop? I do it at least two three times a week.

Sure but I put it on a table so the fans can work properly.

Re: Apple releases software fix for MacBook Pro slowdown

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Happy to see Dave2D at the forefront of this. He gives solid advice and puts out crispy 4K content on YouTube. Link to his channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVYamHliCI9rw1tHR1xbkfw

I feel bad for the other famous YouTuber who published a video basically saying that everyone are overreacting.

For every internet action there's an equal and opposite overreaction.

Re: Apple releases software fix for MacBook Pro slowdown

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Why would anyone put a high end laptop on their legs while doing a prolonged intensive task such as video rendering??

Isn't part of the definition of a laptop that it should be able to be used comfortably resting on the user's lap?

That's why they're explicitly not referred to as laptops but notebook computers. It's the reason Apple calls them MacBooks only and not laptops.

Re: Apple releases software fix for MacBook Pro slowdown

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Why would anyone put a high end laptop on their legs while doing a prolonged intensive task such as video rendering??

Isn't part of the definition of a laptop that it should be able to be used comfortably resting on the user's lap?

If you look carefully, Apple (and probably other manufacturers) call their portable computers "notebooks" and not "laptops" because using a computer on your lap is bad both thermally and ergonomically.

Re: Apple releases software fix for MacBook Pro slowdown

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I would not trust any coverage of supposed issues with Apple hardware. There is a huge incentive for negative coverage. Remember Antenna-gate with the iPhone 4? They continued selling the iPhone 4, completely unmodified, for years after that whole debacle. That's how widespread the supposed issue was.

Apple settled a fairly large lawsuit related to Antennagate and was forced to send out a bumper case to affected users so they could hold the phone the "Jobs" way and get reception rather than the way you would normally hold...literally any other phone before, during, or since Antennagate, including newer iPhone models.

TBH, the "Jobs" way was the normal way that most people held a phone. It was the people who smothered the whole handset in some kind of crazy death grip that had attenuation problems.

I got my bumper in the mail, but never needed or used it.

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