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Apple releases software fix for MacBook Pro slowdown

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Re: Apple releases software fix for MacBook Pro slowdown

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This appears to be working as expected. Here is a graph [0] of the Intel Power Gadget while I ran Cinebench. They are not the same length because it took longer before the update and I cut out the parts before and after. Pretty striking difference IMHO and it never went below base clock after the update. I was worried about my i9 but I'm not anymore. Also if anyone is wondering it went from 780cb -> 860cb but I would…

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Re: Apple releases software fix for MacBook Pro slowdown

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Even with the fix, I'm afraid you're still shilling out a lot of money for top hardware that can't be used to its maximum extent. Because of the thin form factor limitations, insufficient thermal design and possibly even something as silly as not using the best thermal paste. And the system as a whole will still run quite hot for high CPU+GPU loads, so who knows how that affects the electronics and battery life longe…

People bought them knowing that they were making tradeoffs in performance, but the real problem was that the computers were not even hitting their advertised specs.

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Huge performance difference - how did they not notice before?

The article made it seem like this only affected a small number of units? Their quality control probably doesn’t look at every single unit. Although it’s interesting that they didn’t find it at all, since reading HN and reddit gave me the impression it was very widespread.

Not many manufacturers at their scale charge their prices so their QA procedure should be unorthodox as well.

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Happy to see Dave2D at the forefront of this. He gives solid advice and puts out crispy 4K content on YouTube. Link to his channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVYamHliCI9rw1tHR1xbkfw

I feel bad for the other famous YouTuber who published a video basically saying that everyone are overreacting.

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> I don't see how you can get more cooling with a firmware change when the fans are already going at full speed It's not about what you do when the temperature if at its peaks and the fans are going at full speed, it's about how you avoid getting there. > How is this going to impact some of those bad solder joints MacBooks are famous for? When did MacBooks became famous for "bad solder joints"?

there were a whole series of macbook pros from around 2010-2012 which had the nvidia discrete GPUs, BGA chips, come unsoldered from the motherboard on their own under normal usage. (edit: nvidia, not amd/ati radeon)

Early 2008 MacBook Pro as well.

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> they have tremendous brand loyalty, but will need to be more careful in the future. Does that really matter though? I was just discussing this with someone over the weekend... his thesis was that people buy Apple because of branding, which might be true as far as the majority of customers are concerned... But for people like me (powerusers), MacBooks are simply the best possible choice. Everything else is either ad…

I've had no driver problems running linux on my laptop, just sayin.

Wasn't a Linux laptop with hibernation, sound, and wireless working at the same time one of the UN's Millenium Goals?

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Nice, I was going to buy the lowest spec CPU version of the 2018 yes or yes so seeing that the thermal issues are getting improved just affirms my decision. I think the 2018 might be the new 2015. Apple MacBooks are like classic wines, some years are better than others, but you'll pay through the nose for every vintage anyway ;) My 2008 alu worked without a hitch for 10 years until a bad third party battery started t…

That's my hope as well, as soon as I saw the iFixit report on the silicone cones on the keys I pulled the trigger on the 15" i9 32GB RAM 1TB SSD and I love it. This throttling issue worried me a lot but after the fix I am seeing it not fall below clock [0]. I came from a late-2013 which was a great laptop (though I know the 2015 was the sweet spot, I was going to upgrade to that if the 2018 didn't address my top issues but it did so I went for the 2018).

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17603760

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> When did MacBooks became famous for "bad solder joints"? There has been more[1] than one[2] case where GPUs in MBPs stopped working because of bad solder joints. And ifixit has a guide about how to fix your mac by putting it in the oven[3] to reflow the solder joints. 1: https://www.macupgrades.co.uk/store/product_info.php?product... 2: https://www.apple.com/support/macbookpro-videoissues/ 3: https://ifixit.org/blo…

That was an nvidia problem. All their laptop chips were affected that were in one family. Dell replaced my motherboard four times over it. If MacBooks are famous for it, so are all laptops with an nvidia gpu.

To be fair, most of those other laptops aren't made by a company that's famous for meticulously stressing details and restricting hardware configurations so that consumers won't need to research or worry about internals.

The PC vs Mac hardware dichotomy is best summed up as, "Apple gives you less choice so that they can exercise more quality control."

Re: Apple releases software fix for MacBook Pro slowdown

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Great to see Apple address this so quickly. The throttling issues didn't effect me and my workload (iOS and Android development) but it clearly caused bit issues for those doing video editing.

I have installed the update and so far so good. I have only had this 2018 model for a little over a day but I am loving the keyboard changes and TrueTone display and performance for me is superb.

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