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#131
Don't buy a new car with every large raise. Seems obvious, right?

If you take a 10 year span, 25 to 35, and say you are moving from junior to intermediate roles in IT/Software you are going to see some decent pay bumps.

Instead of getting a new car every 3 years get something reliable and double down on payments when you get pay bumps. In year 4 or 5 you will have a paid off car. Years 5-10 of that span you will just have maintenance and any repairs.

This could be thousands of dollars saved. Apply the same concept to all other expenses: don't upsize anything with pay raises - stick it in retirement accounts. This increases the luck of being able to retire earlier than most, wish I did this.

Re: Ask HN: What were/are you doing at age 25? What would you change?

#132

1. Playing World of Warcraft all day, every day. 2. Stop.

Why stop? I’ve found the community great and it very relaxing.

If you play WoW every waking moment you have no job (and presumably no house). You have no time to do anything but WoW. I agree that MMOs or any other social activity can be very good for you, but you need to be moderating your usage at least enough that you can exist as a full-featured human being.

Re: Ask HN: What were/are you doing at age 25? What would you change?

#133
post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How did you have significant money to invest by 25?

Modest liquidity from previous startup successes (low six figures).

That's modest to you? I'm poor by comparison but I still consider myself to be very well off (especially when I compare myself to my colleagues and uni friends).

Re: Ask HN: What were/are you doing at age 25? What would you change?

#134
> only being 2 years into my job I still feel like I'm thrown into a pit

I think it will always feel like this. The best you can do is learn skills to make this easier to manage (whether they be about learning how to break projects up, wrangle in the right people, or learning technology)

When I was 25 I was one year out of grad school and starting my second job. What worked:

* Living cheaply. My expenses at the time were 2-3x cheaper than what they are now. To be fair though, I also make 2-3x more and my quality of life is much higher.

* Focusing on open source and skill building. I've consistently put in the time after hours and it has really paid off over the years. I've learned lots of small important skills through it. Most importantly I've learned how to GSD which is possibly the most important skill of all - you'd be surprised how many people know tons but just can't produce

* Having a narrow skill set. I've been with Ruby companies most of my career and, while I want to be doing more technical work, I'm now extremely valuable and competitive in the market

* Forcing myself into the toughest problems at companies. At every position I've been in I've talked my way into working on what I viewed as the hardest problems. Unfortunately a lot of these problem areas have little support (few people want to work on them) and it has led me to burnout multiple times, but the technical lessons I've learned working on large, difficult legacy systems have been invaluable in the long run.

* Dating. Having someone to balance me out has been really important. Now I'm happily married.

* Stopped binging video games. I was bad for awhile. In high school and college I played WoW a lot and had relationships through that game that I didn't want to give up, but my personal life suffered. Even if it wasn't WoW I would just play something else. I eventually went cold turkey on it all. I did and do still play some games occasionally, but I'm not up until 2AM with my face to a screen burning brain cells. Breaking this addiction has given me more time to focus on other things I care about

* Maxed out my 401k. Your 401k is an easy and strong investment vehicle. Take advantage of it while you are young

Here would be my criticisms to myself:

* Read all of the documentation. My next job was doing some integrations work at a company with heavy Cassandra use. Nobody knew how to use Cassandra and had I become an expert early then it would've paid dividends later

* Nobody will teach you anything - you need to teach yourself. Software is a tough field as it is very individual and self-driven. I always thought that a good technical mentor would teach me things but that has never happened throughout my entire career. Anything I've learned has been through my own sweat (although, to be fair, companies have enabled me in several cases by putting me in charge of projects)

* Focus on velocity. I've always read that staying productive is good (e.g. good TDD cycle, strong automation, etc), and I've done it from time to time on my projects and it has always been great. You really need to ruthlessly optimize for your time though and that means streamlining your day-to-day so you can do more

* Learn more about personal finance. I bought a new car when I was younger and spent money without really thinking about my goals. Now I'm wanting to buy property and having to budget much harder than I would had I thought about things years prior. Loans and investing can be tricky at first

* Focus on your personal happiness. This sounds obvious but who you are outside of your career is really important. You need a place to go to get away. For me that was playing guitar but I neglected this for a long time. Today I'm picking up more hobbies as well like baking bread and electronics. It's important to disconnect. I tend to fluctuate between things (1 month of after-hours career growth, 1 month of baking, 1 month of guitar, etc)

* Eat and drink well. Seriously, it's not worth living off of peanut butter & jelly and hot dogs. This is the shit I grew up with so I didn't know any better. My wife taught me about good food and it has really improved my life both in terms of health and happiness

* Read books. I used to read technical books but I never read many novels. If I could go back in time then even a novel a year would've been nice

* Burnout is real and it will happen to you if you don't actively manage it. "Working hard" is unproductive and stupid. You want to work smart and that means properly planning things out for exponential automated returns later instead of linear returns that require your sweat and blood as input

* Follow your motherfucking dreams. I've created BS excuses for myself over time and while I've been happy with my career and life there are things that I missed the boat on because I didn't stay dedicated (e.g. playing guitar out with bands trying to hustle and tour). Put in the time now. Don't put it off

* The "superstar team" surrounded by people of passion is a lie. Well - not really a lie, but it's not what you think it is. Quit trying to find the job with "amazing people". Putting expectations on other people to make a job is a recipe for disaster - join a place you like and that has growth and be the bar-setter

Re: Ask HN: What were/are you doing at age 25? What would you change?

#135
Well, this falls nicely into the "bucket of common experiences lots of people can talk about". :P

Turning 25 in two-ish weeks. Currently just past my 3rd year at a FAANG after failing to figure out a "path more interesting than just a software job"* during college.

Life isn't rainbows and unicorns, but I'm building a nest egg while figuring-out-what-I-acutually-want-to-be-when-I-grow-up, learning, and playing with pixels (aka "doing AR stuff at work"). I've got a handful of (less close than I'd like to be) friends, my family is doing okay (even with a breast cancer-y mom; thank goodness that got caught early), and I'm managing to stay reasonably active. I'm probably going to break up with the person I'm seeing soon; the "breaking up" part probably won't be so fun, but least there will be some good memories.

The formerly straight-A student, state champ mathlete me sometimes wishes I could just be that good at things, that easily, again. But life is life, and I really don't want my existence to have peaked at high school. ;)

As for advice to 25-year-old me.. seeing as how I'm not there yet, I can't really say. I'm just hoping to glean some advice like the rest of us youngin's in this thread. :P

*18-year-old me knew she'd be good at CS, but wanted to avoid the cubicle life that both her parents had. Almost-25-year-old me... is fine for now, but there's something about fields of open-office desks that makes a person feel like a cog. Maybe I'll go to grad school or join in on a startup (assuming I can find/make one that I don't cynic-the-idea-to-death) in the next few years.

Re: Ask HN: What were/are you doing at age 25? What would you change?

#136
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Advice to my younger self: Get really fit. Like do upside-down-handstand-push-ups fit. Fitness is an easy way to get status that requires essentially no luck. Women are attracted to high status individuals. It shows you are a hard worker, a trait that people respect. It gives you energy and health, and is much more fun than being on a computer. Family advice: life after 40 for most people is about family and the chil…

+100 to fitness. Especially since its much easier to get fit when you're younger. Maintaining the same level of fitness is much much easier than having to achieve it later in life.

Do you think a 29 y'old skinnyfat is too late to get properly fit?

Re: Ask HN: What were/are you doing at age 25? What would you change?

#137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> Proposing to my girlfriend of 7 years next month. Advice from an older person here - don't wait until you are 30+ to start trying, if you want to have kids. You will all benefit from having more health and energy when under 30.

Sure health and energy are helpful when raising kids. But what about wisdom and perspective? I would think it really depends on the person and how prepared they feel with respect to having kids - mentally and physically.

Wisdom and perspective are not necessarily correlated with age.

Your second sentence is correct, each individual needs to judge roughly the right time based on mental,physical and financial situations.

For me there was never going to be a right time so I'm glad it happened when it did (29) as it's tiring and I want to have as much good health as I can to enjoy my children.

Re: Ask HN: What were/are you doing at age 25? What would you change?

#138
I have a ton of advice for the 25 yr old me, but I think most of it wouldn't generalize well to other people.

The one thing I'd stress to everyone is - don't take your (good) health for granted, it's really the foundation for everything else. Late 20s is about the time when random issues start popping up. Personally I wish I'd taken the MMR vaccine before travelling...

Re: Ask HN: What were/are you doing at age 25? What would you change?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

+100 to fitness. Especially since its much easier to get fit when you're younger. Maintaining the same level of fitness is much much easier than having to achieve it later in life.

Do you think a 29 y'old skinnyfat is too late to get properly fit?

Definitely harder than 20 y'old skinnyfat you but also definitely easier than 40 y'old skinnyfat you.

Just focus on the process and enjoy the ride, I guess.

Re: Ask HN: What were/are you doing at age 25? What would you change?

#140

Currently 25 myself, though I turn 26 tomorrow (well, 2 and half hours, now). I'm in a job (secondary mathematics teacher) I don't hate, but don't love. Really, I wish I could get over my fears. Fear of failure, but mostly fear of my student loans. I want to move and work abroad, specifically Ireland, and I feel that going back to school would be the best way to get a job (mostly because it would give me time and an…

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