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For babies, life may be like an LSD trip

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Re: For babies, life may be like an LSD trip

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I don't know about an LSD trip but I've often wondered what exactly a baby perceives while in the womb or as a newborn. Their brains aren't just sitting there as a blank state so they are experiencing something. I wouldn't at all be surprised if it's very trippy seeing as infants have literally nothing to hold onto to define reality as we see it. I often watched my newborn staring off into empty space clearly perceiv…

Whatever it is, they remember it subconsciously - shushing a baby (like the calming type) and rocking (also works for adults) reminds them - subconsciously - of the sound of the mother's blood flow and movements.

Re: For babies, life may be like an LSD trip

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I've also read a study that images the brain on LSD which shows that there's less activity in perception which kind of goes against the folk story of LSD opening one up to input. What happens is that some input gets stopped and so, common to all illusions, the brain creates stuff to fill in the gaps. This might be just to do with hallucinations though. In other words, LSD closes the doors of perception rather than op…

It's just weird how persistent the halucinations are.. Like if you look at a painting it will look totally different than normal, you will probably see shapes of weird things a bit like Deep Dream's terrifying faces and dogs but a bit different. You can then leave said painting for 2 hours and come back to find the painting has the exact alterations from reality as before. Because of this i'm more inclined to think t…

Wouldn’t it make more sense that LSD is a filter, and it sticks for the duration? Or at least, different lenses? This idea of ‘that’s a more real’ reality doesn’t make sense, the visualisations can be different next trip (in the situation you describe) which to me implies the opposite.

Btw my favourite trip illusion/hallucination is looking at marble/granite - the veins appear to flow!

Re: For babies, life may be like an LSD trip

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Tangentially: I was reading a study about fMRI in dyslexia the other day, and it seemed to me to indicate that the area of the brain that has lower activity and blood flow in a dyslexic was the same area they found to be reducing activity and blood flow on psychedelics. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/29412010 / http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal....

Re: For babies, life may be like an LSD trip

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While a lot of this makes great sense, this: > Blake thought that the doors on perception are artificially kept semi-closed for cultural reasons - i.e. the ability to focus and do work for the enrichment of the powers that be Just reads as an intentional satirical portrayal of "anti-establishment" stereotype.

Not just cultural reasons though, imagine you were tripping all the time. The brain protects itself. Likewise how you can't be awake all the time.

Re: For babies, life may be like an LSD trip

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Hmmmmm... Seems like "I found these few studies, it must mean babies are super humans that are tripping constantly!" Or healing happens faster because cell-division has a greater impact given the greater impact it has on total number of cells, and an abundance of stem cells still present as they develop helps with healing alongside growth and development. Then the fact that MOST things they encounter in the world are…

Not calling this post out specifically, but drugs make for good clickbait. Drugs in general are 'in' right now, and i agree that it's pretty forced these days. I have a very small sample size, but the friends i have who tripped regularly (not just on lsd) went on to have serious mental health issues. I know correlation =! causation, but it scares me how big the drug culture is becoming. These drugs may have their pla…

> but the reality is that the biggest use case today is to generate Ad revenue

I appreciate your comment overall, but this sentence makes me think you don't know much about drugs or drug culture, or the actual effects of drugs. I'm also slightly worried about the general popularity in current society and media, however.

Re: For babies, life may be like an LSD trip

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Well, if by 'in right now' you mean at least 7k - 9k years you might be right [0][1]. If you believe what ethnobotanist like Terence Mckenna [2] say, then it's much older and has shaped the hominids evolution quite significantly. It seems almost all cultures found local hallucinogens and exploited them heavily for ceremony, healing etc and was strong part of who they were [3]. Anecdotally, I think hallucinogen just h…

This is exactly what we mean by "kind of forced" For most of history people didn't have the free time to be regularly using drugs the way some people today imply. If your life is farming from sunrise to sunset you're gonna need a lot of sleep and there isn't much time left to be tripping balls. You'll probably only can justify using your available free time to do whatever your local drug is at special occasions, what…

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Re: For babies, life may be like an LSD trip

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not calling this post out specifically, but drugs make for good clickbait. Drugs in general are 'in' right now, and i agree that it's pretty forced these days. I have a very small sample size, but the friends i have who tripped regularly (not just on lsd) went on to have serious mental health issues. I know correlation =! causation, but it scares me how big the drug culture is becoming. These drugs may have their pla…

can confirm. Same with many of my friends. All heavy weed smokers, all used psychedelics. A worrying % went on to have some mental health issues. Now I know all the pro-weed people say "yeah but it is those pre-disposed to having schizophrenic episodes". Perhaps, but at the sample rate in my experience and others who have met later on the % is far higher than I would have expected to be. Same for just weed smoking. I…

Anecdotes are always going to be anecdotes. I can give you the complete opposite experience with my friends, some of them who tackled depression with mushrooms and are nowadays much happier and productive people.

The older I get the more I see people have mental issues, as you are out of your teenage years and a lot of more stressors pop up in your life it's also much easier to trigger or develop mental health problems, so there are bunch of other variables that no anecdote will control for thus making it just a "feel good to tell my story" kind of post, not really enlightening.

Re: For babies, life may be like an LSD trip

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I took a strong hit of acid when I was a teenager at Glastonbury festival. I ended up falling into a delusional, catatonic state where I thought I was in some kind of war zone surrounded by dead people. Thankfully some friends found me and talked me down. I hope babies don’t have an experience like that!

They do have, it's called baby night terrors. The baby wakes up in the middle of the night in some sort of trip and can scream for hours.

I thought babies were also known as night terrors...

Re: For babies, life may be like an LSD trip

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, if by 'in right now' you mean at least 7k - 9k years you might be right [0][1]. If you believe what ethnobotanist like Terence Mckenna [2] say, then it's much older and has shaped the hominids evolution quite significantly. It seems almost all cultures found local hallucinogens and exploited them heavily for ceremony, healing etc and was strong part of who they were [3]. Anecdotally, I think hallucinogen just h…

This is exactly what we mean by "kind of forced" For most of history people didn't have the free time to be regularly using drugs the way some people today imply. If your life is farming from sunrise to sunset you're gonna need a lot of sleep and there isn't much time left to be tripping balls. You'll probably only can justify using your available free time to do whatever your local drug is at special occasions, what…

Farming, at least for your family and not commercially is not all that labor intensive. There are daily chores, a few peak seasonal activities, but outside of harvest its much easier than say an office job.

Baseball and cricket exist to fill the empty days of summer where bees, sun and the occasional down pour automate the bounty. You basically have the whole of winter and most of summer to trip balls.

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