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Ask HN: What were/are you doing at age 25? What would you change?

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Re: Ask HN: What were/are you doing at age 25? What would you change?

#71
Backstory: When I was ~21 I was in an accident and after that had some remaining health problems and got depressed. This led me to in effect drop out of university and not do anything productive until I was 25 (this was in europe and I lived on 'on sick-leave student assistance' and an inheritance).

At 25: I had just gotten a part-time job at the university (which I managed since my depression was being dealt with, and some underlying medical issues had been diagnosed and started treatment) and was aiming at working there while catching up with my degree. The job was semi-related to the degree. In practice I made myself irreplaceable at the job and moved up to full-time and getting fairly consistent promotions (my effective salary has been raised by on average ~60%/year since I started working there), while ignoring my studies for my degree (but taking some courses in my new field).

Current status (early 30s): I have effectively topped out at my university position unless I move into management / political (getting funding) positions, which I don't want to do. Also I have grown tired of the limits of academia (and my department) and feel that I need to move into the industry. I recently failed some interviews with some FAAMG companies (due to not taking taking preparations seriously enough, and not thinking that I actually had a chance of getting the positions even though I moved onto later-stage interviews). I just signed a contract for working at a company in the financial sector and am currently doing the hand-off at my current job.

Tips for myself at 25:

I will give advice specific to me as well as a more generic version that applies to anyone at that age (or, probably, any age).

- Be more honest with yourself and realize that you will not finish your degree, and put more effort towards your work. Generically: Reflect on your (career) goals and how you will realistically fulfill them. From this build objectives that are not redundant or useless. Reevaluate your goals periodically.

- Be clear to your boss about what your plans for the future are, since he is in the best position to help you with your career development[1]. Generically: Don't be afraid of accepting help from people who offer to help. Your boss is supposed to be your advocate against management, and to help you reach your goals within the constraints of your current company/position/... (this is dependent on your boss being a reasonable/good person/manager).

- Be less passive in fixing your problems outside of work. Generically: Strive for having a good balance between your work life and your personal life. Either will affect the other, both your performance at work as well as your interpersonal relationships.

- Take your health problems seriously, get all of them checked out. Generically: You are your only health advocate. Any health professional you meet will be overworked and have a big incentive to dismiss your problems as not relevant/serious. They also will have their pet issues that they will try to fit you into. Investigate your symptoms online if you can be somewhat objective about yourself, and know how to read lists of symptoms.

ETA: Thank you for asking a great question by the way. It has gotten me to reflect on my last couple of years in a very productive way.

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[1] - this only applies if you have a good boss, YMMV

Re: Ask HN: What were/are you doing at age 25? What would you change?

#73

Advice to my younger self: Get really fit. Like do upside-down-handstand-push-ups fit. Fitness is an easy way to get status that requires essentially no luck. Women are attracted to high status individuals. It shows you are a hard worker, a trait that people respect. It gives you energy and health, and is much more fun than being on a computer. Family advice: life after 40 for most people is about family and the chil…

+100 to fitness. Especially since its much easier to get fit when you're younger. Maintaining the same level of fitness is much much easier than having to achieve it later in life.

Re: Ask HN: What were/are you doing at age 25? What would you change?

#74
At 25 I had just started my first job as a web developer that actually paid well. I had spent 4 years studying and preparing before I even allowed myself to apply to the kind of job I wanted, and when I finally got hired I knew way more than anyone at the company. If I had believed in myself at the time I could have saved myself a few years of working $12/hr jobs. I'm 33 now.

There's been some good advice here, and I'll just add that it's really important that you take time regularly to think about what you're doing. Not a couple hours, but a week, or month if you can swing it. Something that gives you enough time to get adjusted to being yourself outside of work. You can get so wrapped up in being busy and trying to get stuff done that you completely lose sight of yourself and what you want out of life. I didn't get a chance to do that until paternity leave when my daughter was born and I had 6 weeks away from work. It was like finally coming up for air after swimming underwater and I was shocked at where all those hours of work had gotten me, which was nowhere I really wanted to be (professionally).

Re: Ask HN: What were/are you doing at age 25? What would you change?

#75
You don't need to make a relationship without a solid foundation work just because you had a child.

You can be a great single dad.

You can have a healthy relationship with your entire family, ex included, even after separating.

Negotiate your salary, as far as income is concerned negotiation skills can often be more important than technical skills.

Follow the breadcrumbs that come along, talk to people, everyone, listen to their advice, look for opportunities, seize them. Believe in your ability to execute.

Life can change incredibly fast. Six months can take you from bottom to top or the other way. Sometimes this may involve a perspective change more than anything.

Work Hard. Be Kind.

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At 25 I was barely supporting my little family, with very little hope of living beyond check to check..

At 33 now, I am doing better than I ever imagined possible

Re: Ask HN: What were/are you doing at age 25? What would you change?

#77

1. Playing World of Warcraft all day, every day. 2. Stop.

Man, do you need help? That sounds like extremely lowered willpower. Are you happy with playing or is it an addiction?

At the International Conference on Men’s Issues (just finished yesterday!) we discussed lengthily with a few psychologists about male isolation and addictions, and how it sometimes was a strategy to cope with a world that denigrates men. Maybe I’m going a bit fast here, but I’d prefer that you study the reasons of you being there and eventually end uo being useful to the world. If not because you’re a fellow human being that deserves dignity, at least because more income means you’ll pay more taxes to my government :D

No, seriously, your skills and ability to navigate through gamers’ worlds and diagnose other players’ issues would be a net benefit to Humanity.

Re: Ask HN: What were/are you doing at age 25? What would you change?

#78
I was teaching HS math at a NYC public high school. A great job in many ways, miss it except for the low pay. Did that for 5 years before quitting to travel/cycle.

Was sitting at my parents' place (unemployed) after the traveling and read a NYT article about baristas becoming developers after a boot camp, so figured I could teach myself...

Fast forward to now, I'm 32, a developer...it's ok, I'm proud of the career change and what not but I do find staring at a glowing rectangle 8+ hours/day to be existentially vapip.

Advice: - broaden perspectives (by traveling, interacting with people outside your social/economic class) - exercise and/or commute by bicycle - be kind to people; you never know what someone might be going through - read novels - cook most of your meals

I don't think I'd change much tbh...I'm grateful to be able to day that, but it doesn't mean I've got it figured out!

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Re: Ask HN: What were/are you doing at age 25? What would you change?

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At 25, (just before turning 26), I had been working for a startup for 5 years. I lived in an apartment with my brother who was in school. Kind of had a girlfriend. Good savings (10 - 20K). Car that had aged faster than it should have, it was like 8 years old, but was more like 15 in issues. I was burnt out at work. Too many long hours. I would go to work and I could not motivate myself to do anything. Went to my boss…

Go on.....:)

I'm 25 and curious.

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