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Re: GitLab Direction

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post #102

If you want to compete with GitHub for open source projects you are going to need a 'releases' page that's similar (at least in function) to github's. I would like to see that prioritized more, I think it's more important for many projects looking to switch than many of the other features listed here

I just link to the project tags page, since the only tags we have are releases, this works great.

There are no download statistics for that though

Re: GitLab Direction

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GitLab is like the average kid in class that everybody makes fun of for constantly asking questions, but the joke's on them because "a little bit of slope makes up for a lot of y-intercept." While GitLab may have warts, I feel that they're very earnestly working to make the product better, bit by bit, day by day, and will one day surpass GitHub.

Sometimes the valedictorian or most popular kid is always going to be better, no matter how much "hard work" in involved. Sometimes it's friends (marketing) and good looks (good design) that get you there.

These are things that GitLab is losing on. Damn thing is so ugly from a layman's perspective, it's probably hard to figure out if they are technically superior because no one uses it.

Private repo offerings are a tough competitive space, too. Everyone knows who Atlassian is.

Re: GitLab Direction

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post #5

GitLab is like the average kid in class that everybody makes fun of for constantly asking questions, but the joke's on them because "a little bit of slope makes up for a lot of y-intercept." While GitLab may have warts, I feel that they're very earnestly working to make the product better, bit by bit, day by day, and will one day surpass GitHub.

Thanks! Incremental progress in the form of iteration is one of our core values https://about.gitlab.com/handbook/values/#iteration

The Gitlab handbook is great! Helped me create something similar at my current company.

Re: GitLab Direction

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GitLab is like the average kid in class that everybody makes fun of for constantly asking questions, but the joke's on them because "a little bit of slope makes up for a lot of y-intercept." While GitLab may have warts, I feel that they're very earnestly working to make the product better, bit by bit, day by day, and will one day surpass GitHub.

Sometimes the valedictorian or most popular kid is always going to be better, no matter how much "hard work" in involved. Sometimes it's friends (marketing) and good looks (good design) that get you there. These are things that GitLab is losing on. Damn thing is so ugly from a layman's perspective, it's probably hard to figure out if they are technically superior because no one uses it. Private repo offerings are a t…

What do you find ugly about GitLab? I actually find the design to be comparable to GitHub, or better.

Re: GitLab Direction

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post #73

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When my company subscribed there was only a community and enterprise tier. Now this has become the starter edition and I feel we are losing a lot of value. We are 200 employees, but only 10 developers using the advanced features. We really want to make GitLab our hub (GitOps and all), however the the cost of going beyond starter edition is mind blowing (x5). So if we are to embrace GitLab further we must abandon the…

I recognize this. Not every company with developers is a software develop company. Those 190 others that dont use the advanced features, what subset of functionality do they require?

Primarily logging in, filing issues and using the wikis. A few might be able to request changes by submitting a PR instead of issues. We do need to have authentication and cannot simply mark all repos public either. The 10 power users want to take advantage of the kubernetes and devops features - especially since we are a small team covering a lot if ground.

Re: GitLab Direction

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post #94
post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When my company subscribed there was only a community and enterprise tier. Now this has become the starter edition and I feel we are losing a lot of value. We are 200 employees, but only 10 developers using the advanced features. We really want to make GitLab our hub (GitOps and all), however the the cost of going beyond starter edition is mind blowing (x5). So if we are to embrace GitLab further we must abandon the…

"I fear GitLab will fence off future functionality with even more tiers at random" our goal when introducing the new tiers was to put new functionality in then, not to move existing functionality away. In the future we might move functionality between tiers to keep the grouping logical but we won't do that lightly let alone randomly. New functionaly is made iteratively starting with the minimal viable change. But the…

I think the problem for us is that not all users are equal. To embrace devops/gitops I really want most of the company involved through our GitLab instance, but only a subset of the license seats would actually use the kubernetes features for instance. Most of our users would not venture beyond the features of the community edition (except for the LDAP auth we use).

So while we enjoy GitLab and do some software development, we are not a software company. I think this is becoming all the more common.

Re: GitLab Direction

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post #73

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1. They only have four tiers (four equivalent tiers for hosted and on-premise technically). This is quite reasonable, as they need to provide flexibility for their customers. They are quite clear about which tiers provide which features. 2. This is purely subjective. I quite like the design, both more than GitHub and Bitbucket. They do have a UX team, and they conduct regular user tests. They've also made a lot of im…

When my company subscribed there was only a community and enterprise tier. Now this has become the starter edition and I feel we are losing a lot of value. We are 200 employees, but only 10 developers using the advanced features. We really want to make GitLab our hub (GitOps and all), however the the cost of going beyond starter edition is mind blowing (x5). So if we are to embrace GitLab further we must abandon the…

That one is exactly ours, too. We have 275 users in license, bought when GitLab Enterprise was the thing. We set up GitLab to help establish innersourcing (e.g. https://about.gitlab.com/2016/07/07/trends-version-control-i...), where all employees are users -- no exceptions. We run a GitLab introduction as part of onboarding of all employees, whether techies, marketing people or recruiters.

Our 275 users are an eclectic mix. There are a few projects that really pound the product, there are lots of internal playground repositories, and even a few non-technical documentation repositories. The requirements are scattered.

I think that that perhaps 25 of the 275 users have need for Ultimate Edition, but that is not possible, we'd have to pay $325.000 for the pleasure. And that is going nowhere.

An interesting question then is what do we do next? Perhaps our innersourcing strategy has to go, and each team will get to choose their own platform. People will chose what they know, and soon most will be on GitHub.

Re: GitLab Direction

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post #124
post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks! Incremental progress in the form of iteration is one of our core values https://about.gitlab.com/handbook/values/#iteration

The Gitlab handbook is great! Helped me create something similar at my current company.

Awesome! And if you improved in it we would love a merge request back :)

Re: GitLab Direction

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post #128
post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When my company subscribed there was only a community and enterprise tier. Now this has become the starter edition and I feel we are losing a lot of value. We are 200 employees, but only 10 developers using the advanced features. We really want to make GitLab our hub (GitOps and all), however the the cost of going beyond starter edition is mind blowing (x5). So if we are to embrace GitLab further we must abandon the…

That one is exactly ours, too. We have 275 users in license, bought when GitLab Enterprise was the thing. We set up GitLab to help establish innersourcing (e.g. https://about.gitlab.com/2016/07/07/trends-version-control-i... ), where all employees are users -- no exceptions. We run a GitLab introduction as part of onboarding of all employees, whether techies, marketing people or recruiters. Our 275 users are an eclec…

If you buy ultimate you get free guest users. Would that help?
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