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Our experience launching a paid, proprietary product on Linux

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Re: Our experience launching a paid, proprietary product on Linux

#11

Post by pythonaut_16 »

skrowl wrote: post #7

I'd imagine for most Linux users (not all, of course) that they're not interested in paid proprietary products, which is why they chose Linux in the first place.

There is little to no evidence of this.

I don't think I've ever seen someone claim to use Linux because it's free (no cost). It's almost always because it's an open platform or because it has the best tools for the job they're doing (e.g. development work).

So in that sense, a Linux user might be less likely to use a product if they care most about the openness of the platform.

Re: Our experience launching a paid, proprietary product on Linux

#13

Post by truthwhisperer »

pmlnr wrote: post #9
captainbland wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think people are going to Medium because they say it pays from subscribed users. Not an easy thing to do with a static blog.

> they say it pays from subscribed users What's the actual money flow from that, less, or more, than 1cent/reader? Does it actually worth it?

Agree good point.

Re: Our experience launching a paid, proprietary product on Linux

#14

Post by coldtea »

pmlnr wrote: post #5

Completely unrelated to the contents: Please, publishers, I beg you: walk away from medium. It's terrible for us, your readers. Set up a static blog, with a domain, go WordPress, Grav, Typo3, anything, but without stupidly large sticky header/footer and without heavy javascript . EDIT: apparently 121KB javascript is not heavy. I still believe it's an overkill for 30KB content.

What exactly makes it terrible "for us, their readers"?

Aside from their bs paywall (which is not a case with HN submissions, those are specific siloed posts) I like Medium -- and surely more than the accessional Blogger relic or badly done personal blogs.

Re: Our experience launching a paid, proprietary product on Linux

#15

Post by Theizestooke »

captainbland wrote: post #8
pmlnr wrote: post #5

Completely unrelated to the contents: Please, publishers, I beg you: walk away from medium. It's terrible for us, your readers. Set up a static blog, with a domain, go WordPress, Grav, Typo3, anything, but without stupidly large sticky header/footer and without heavy javascript . EDIT: apparently 121KB javascript is not heavy. I still believe it's an overkill for 30KB content.

I think people are going to Medium because they say it pays from subscribed users. Not an easy thing to do with a static blog.

Who said that? Because I doubt there's any money in it, more likely they're doing it for "more exposure".

Re: Our experience launching a paid, proprietary product on Linux

#16

Post by detaro »

pythonaut_16 wrote: post #11
skrowl wrote: post #7

I'd imagine for most Linux users (not all, of course) that they're not interested in paid proprietary products, which is why they chose Linux in the first place.

There is little to no evidence of this. I don't think I've ever seen someone claim to use Linux because it's free (no cost). It's almost always because it's an open platform or because it has the best tools for the job they're doing (e.g. development work). So in that sense, a Linux user might be less likely to use a product if they care most about the openness of the platform.

> So in that sense, a Linux user might be less likely to use a product if they care most about the openness of the platform.

which would mean they aren't interested in a paid proprietary product, just like the parent said? They didn't say people choose Linux because it doesn't cost money.

(Although in my experience, some people absolutely do choose Linux because it's free as in beer, especially at first)

Re: Our experience launching a paid, proprietary product on Linux

#17

Post by coldtea »

captainbland wrote: post #8
pmlnr wrote: post #5

Completely unrelated to the contents: Please, publishers, I beg you: walk away from medium. It's terrible for us, your readers. Set up a static blog, with a domain, go WordPress, Grav, Typo3, anything, but without stupidly large sticky header/footer and without heavy javascript . EDIT: apparently 121KB javascript is not heavy. I still believe it's an overkill for 30KB content.

I think people are going to Medium because they say it pays from subscribed users. Not an easy thing to do with a static blog.

>I think people are going to Medium because they say it pays from subscribed users.

That doesn't concern non-monetized posts/blogs like the above.

Re: Our experience launching a paid, proprietary product on Linux

#18

Post by coldtea »

pythonaut_16 wrote: post #11
skrowl wrote: post #7

I'd imagine for most Linux users (not all, of course) that they're not interested in paid proprietary products, which is why they chose Linux in the first place.

There is little to no evidence of this. I don't think I've ever seen someone claim to use Linux because it's free (no cost). It's almost always because it's an open platform or because it has the best tools for the job they're doing (e.g. development work). So in that sense, a Linux user might be less likely to use a product if they care most about the openness of the platform.

>I don't think I've ever seen someone claim to use Linux because it's free (no cost). It's almost always because it's an open platform or because it has the best tools for the job they're doing (e.g. development work).

Then those people are lying. Free is absolutely a factor for many.

Re: Our experience launching a paid, proprietary product on Linux

#19

Post by kome »

coldtea wrote: post #14
pmlnr wrote: post #5

Completely unrelated to the contents: Please, publishers, I beg you: walk away from medium. It's terrible for us, your readers. Set up a static blog, with a domain, go WordPress, Grav, Typo3, anything, but without stupidly large sticky header/footer and without heavy javascript . EDIT: apparently 121KB javascript is not heavy. I still believe it's an overkill for 30KB content.

What exactly makes it terrible "for us, their readers"? Aside from their bs paywall (which is not a case with HN submissions, those are specific siloed posts) I like Medium -- and surely more than the accessional Blogger relic or badly done personal blogs.

> What exactly makes it terrible "for us, their readers"?

cpu melting javascripts

Re: Our experience launching a paid, proprietary product on Linux

#20

Post by kevkav »

sandworm101 wrote: post #10

"First stop, reddit" Dont go to reddit for market research. You will only find extreem views on reddit. They are the younger crowd. Try the ubuntu or mint forums if you want to talk to average linux users. I myself would pay for such an email client because no good foss one exists atm. But i find it very odd that such basic software isnt yet free. I dont like the idea of having my email handled by propietary software…

Yup. Lesson learned on that one alright. It was a mistake.
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