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Re: Show HN: Video Hub App – like YouTube for videos on your computer

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Post by Firerouge »

yboris wrote: post #14
Bulk70 wrote: post #13

Looks great, can you explain how it differs from say PLEX?

Primary goal: preview inside the video on hover (scrub). I may be mistaken but I don't think PLEX has it. Video Hub App also has a filmstrip view and a quick and advanced search capabilities (by folder, file name, exclude, etc). PLEX has many features that my app isn't trying to replicate -- I think the two are aimed at different use cases.

It isn't immediately clear to me, but could someone throw an nginx proxy in front of this and use it like Plex, either over the internet or local network?

Re: Show HN: Video Hub App – like YouTube for videos on your computer

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Post by gpm »

chii wrote: post #26
gpm wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Two problems with the AGPL. The first is that it doesn't really stop commercialization, it's perfectly possible to make a commercial service using open source components. The second is that I'm of the opinion that it may fail once tested in court, basically for the reasoning laid out here [0] (not sure if the author of that is a lawyer, I've seen lawyer's express that position before though). [0] https://www.devever.…

> One does not require permission from the copyright holder merely to use software one already possesses That's patently not true. One does not have "posession" by merely having access to the binary or source. One must first agree (implicitly, or explicitly) before they can acquire the software, such as agreeing to the licence when downloading. Therefore, as soon as you have the right to use the software, the licence…

> That's patently not true. One does not have "posession" by merely having access to the binary or source. One must first agree (implicitly, or explicitly) before they can acquire the software, such as agreeing to the licence when downloading.

Sorry, but you're the mistaken one here. You need a license to make copies of, derivative works, etc. If the copyright holder makes a copy and sends it to me I do not need any license to hold onto it or execute it. We can see this through, for example, Vault Corp. v. Quaid Software [0] (the portion about direct infringement, Wikipedia has a link to the actual ruling as well if you prefer that).

EULA's, unlike the GPL, use contract law to get around this. In order to purchase/download the software I enter into a contract with you giving up some of my rights. The FSFs position as I understand it is that the GPL and AGPL are not contracts though, just licenses, so they don't serve a similar function (assuming the courts agree with the FSF).

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vault_Corp._v._Quaid_Software_....

(Disclaimer: IANAL)

Re: Show HN: Video Hub App – like YouTube for videos on your computer

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Post by uvu »

peterburkimsher wrote: post #30
yboris wrote: post #2

I created this software using Angular, Electron, FFmpeg, and angular2-virtual-scroll. All proceeds go to Against Malaria Foundation (GiveWell's top-rated charity). Currently not open source, but am trying to figure out how to set a license that encourages people to tinker with the code, but not to clone a copy and sell it.

It looks nice! I like the browser view. One feature I need (and would like to tinker with the code to add it) is support for subtitles in multiple languages at the same time. http://voicetube.com does this to help people learn English; I'm trying to learn Chinese.

Ah, voicetube idea is nice :)

Re: Show HN: Video Hub App – like YouTube for videos on your computer

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Post by eganist »

yboris wrote: post #2

I created this software using Angular, Electron, FFmpeg, and angular2-virtual-scroll. All proceeds go to Against Malaria Foundation (GiveWell's top-rated charity). Currently not open source, but am trying to figure out how to set a license that encourages people to tinker with the code, but not to clone a copy and sell it.

You're getting a lot of legal advice from non-lawyers.

Reach out to the EFF and see if they can give you some pro Bono consulting on how to license it for your needs. Alternatively, @buu700 and I have worked with and can recommend https://twitter.com/falconred (Jim Rennie). I get no commission for the rec—we last worked with him two years ago.

Re: Show HN: Video Hub App – like YouTube for videos on your computer

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Post by JoshTriplett »

yboris wrote: post #2

I created this software using Angular, Electron, FFmpeg, and angular2-virtual-scroll. All proceeds go to Against Malaria Foundation (GiveWell's top-rated charity). Currently not open source, but am trying to figure out how to set a license that encourages people to tinker with the code, but not to clone a copy and sell it.

> Currently not open source, but am trying to figure out how to set a license that encourages people to tinker with the code, but not to clone a copy and sell it.

By definition, any such license wouldn't be open source. However, as others have mentioned, putting it under a copyleft license would make it unlikely that others would do so, since they wouldn't be able to distribute their version without providing source under the same license themselves.

Re: Show HN: Video Hub App – like YouTube for videos on your computer

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Post by richardvt »

uvu wrote: post #34
peterburkimsher wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It looks nice! I like the browser view. One feature I need (and would like to tinker with the code to add it) is support for subtitles in multiple languages at the same time. http://voicetube.com does this to help people learn English; I'm trying to learn Chinese.

Ah, voicetube idea is nice :)

I'm the maker of VoiceTube. Hope you love it!

Re: Show HN: Video Hub App – like YouTube for videos on your computer

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Post by peterburkimsher »

richardvt wrote: post #37
uvu wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ah, voicetube idea is nice :)

I'm the maker of VoiceTube. Hope you love it!

Hi Richard! It's Peter from Pingtype; we chatted on Skype a while ago. Good to see you joining HN. I've posted a couple more videos on my YouTube since then. https://pingtype.github.io

Unfortunately life in Taiwan has been really hard for the last few months though, so I'm preparing to leave. Busy looking for new jobs in other countries now.

Re: Show HN: Video Hub App – like YouTube for videos on your computer

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Post by natch »

peterburkimsher wrote: post #38
richardvt wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm the maker of VoiceTube. Hope you love it!

Hi Richard! It's Peter from Pingtype; we chatted on Skype a while ago. Good to see you joining HN. I've posted a couple more videos on my YouTube since then. https://pingtype.github.io Unfortunately life in Taiwan has been really hard for the last few months though, so I'm preparing to leave. Busy looking for new jobs in other countries now.

Wow, pingtype is cool!

What kind of job are you looking for?

Re: Show HN: Video Hub App – like YouTube for videos on your computer

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Post by pinum »

JoshTriplett wrote: post #36
yboris wrote: post #2

I created this software using Angular, Electron, FFmpeg, and angular2-virtual-scroll. All proceeds go to Against Malaria Foundation (GiveWell's top-rated charity). Currently not open source, but am trying to figure out how to set a license that encourages people to tinker with the code, but not to clone a copy and sell it.

> Currently not open source, but am trying to figure out how to set a license that encourages people to tinker with the code, but not to clone a copy and sell it. By definition, any such license wouldn't be open source. However, as others have mentioned, putting it under a copyleft license would make it unlikely that others would do so, since they wouldn't be able to distribute their version without providing source…

Not everyone treats "open source" as a political term. The OSI doesn't have any special right to define it. Many just use it as a catchier alternative to "source available".
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