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Post by MrLeftHand »

patagonia wrote: post #10
MrLeftHand wrote: post #2

I love how vegans and vegetarians have this 'holier then thou' attitude. Not like we don't need still a lot of land to grow our crops, but whatever. What will be his next move? Bans using electricity? Orders every employee to live in a cave? I hope he will write the holy book of Wework with 10, 20, maybe a 100 commandments. I am excited to see the exodus from Wework. Maybe that can be a chapter in that holy book.

Sooo, your comment is kinda aggressive. Just saying. I don’t doubt that there are many vegans / vegetarians with a holier than though attitude. But as a vegetarian and ex- vegan, I have experienced more than enough lecturing on why my choice is dumb or wrong to last a lifetime, been the butt of more jokes to count (actually it’s mostly the same three jokes heard over and over), and seen many many people wear that loo…

Sorry, if I offended you. I am not against vegans or vegetarians, but you never see a non-vegan one walking up to you and telling you that you are a shit person if you're not one of them.

I think veganism and vegetarianism is slowly becoming a cult.

I have vegan and vegetarian friends and I never make fun of them. I am usually curious why people chose that diet. Some do out of love for the animals, other do it because of the carbon emission and there are who just do it to try and eat healthier and such.

No problem with this. I have problem with the vegan police culture.

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Post by lucideer »

There exists companies that don't subsidize employee meals. If he proposed to simply stop subsidizing food completely, this would be a non-story.

There are other publications calling this a "ban" on meat; nothing is being banned.

The hyperbolic reaction here is pretty shocking. Seems the idea of vegans being the "holier than thou" ones is a severe case of projection.

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Post by MrLeftHand »

adamnemecek wrote: post #22
MrLeftHand wrote: post #2

I love how vegans and vegetarians have this 'holier then thou' attitude. Not like we don't need still a lot of land to grow our crops, but whatever. What will be his next move? Bans using electricity? Orders every employee to live in a cave? I hope he will write the holy book of Wework with 10, 20, maybe a 100 commandments. I am excited to see the exodus from Wework. Maybe that can be a chapter in that holy book.

Livestock is a bigger contributor to global warming than cars.

I would argue with that.

Also if you want to find the biggest carbon emitter then look no further then the oceans. We should ban them too.

Or at least that was in one study, but who knows. There are hundreds of studies nowadays on this topic.

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Post by andmarios »

adamnemecek wrote: post #15
whymauri wrote: post #7

I will 100% never work at this company now, neither would any of my friends (just asked). What a weird way to shoot yourself in the foot talent-wise, lol. It's incredibly bizarre and controlling.

That's debatable. All the vegetarians are now somewhat more likely to work there.

At the end of the article, it says their end-game is to go vegan (no fish, dairy and eggs). So even vegetarians may get second thoughts.

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Post by fab13n »

I've read, but can't find the figures sustaining it, that vegetarian diets are more efficient per acre, but less efficient per gallon of water. The kind of fruits and vegetables humans eat consume lots of water, whereas the food for cellulose-eating cattle demands much less, to the point where a calorie worth of meat would use less water than a calorie worth of human-feeding greens.

If anyone could find back-of-the-enveloppe figures to vindicate or debunk that claim, I'd be glad to read them.

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Post by that_guy1 »

lucideer wrote: post #32

There exists companies that don't subsidize employee meals. If he proposed to simply stop subsidizing food completely, this would be a non-story. There are other publications calling this a "ban" on meat; nothing is being banned. The hyperbolic reaction here is pretty shocking. Seems the idea of vegans being the "holier than thou" ones is a severe case of projection.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burwell_v._Hobby_Lobby_Stores,....

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Post by MrLeftHand »

taeric wrote: post #6
MrLeftHand wrote: post #2

I love how vegans and vegetarians have this 'holier then thou' attitude. Not like we don't need still a lot of land to grow our crops, but whatever. What will be his next move? Bans using electricity? Orders every employee to live in a cave? I hope he will write the holy book of Wework with 10, 20, maybe a 100 commandments. I am excited to see the exodus from Wework. Maybe that can be a chapter in that holy book.

While I actually agree with you in some respect, the hyperbole is not helping your cause. Unless you are just wanting echo chamber comments. I think there are too many confounding factors here, but would be heavily interested in knowing if there are any results that are worth talking about from the company trying this. Health or productivity related. (And, obviously, positive or negative.)

I think one of the big factors might be, that it's more about money then the environment.

The last time I've heard about Wework is that they are still expanding and not making any profit yet.

It might be, that the funds are running dry and to cut costs, they are forcing their employees to bring in their on food on own expense.

Should have kicked off with this thought process.

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Post by patagonia »

MrLeftHand wrote: post #31
patagonia wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sooo, your comment is kinda aggressive. Just saying. I don’t doubt that there are many vegans / vegetarians with a holier than though attitude. But as a vegetarian and ex- vegan, I have experienced more than enough lecturing on why my choice is dumb or wrong to last a lifetime, been the butt of more jokes to count (actually it’s mostly the same three jokes heard over and over), and seen many many people wear that loo…

Sorry, if I offended you. I am not against vegans or vegetarians, but you never see a non-vegan one walking up to you and telling you that you are a shit person if you're not one of them. I think veganism and vegetarianism is slowly becoming a cult. I have vegan and vegetarian friends and I never make fun of them. I am usually curious why people chose that diet. Some do out of love for the animals, other do it becaus…

You did not offend me. I was just making a remark about the tone of your comment, and suggesting that the conversation would benefit from a general change in tone.

So you’ve never seen a PETA (people eating tasty animals) shirt? I’ve personally had people tell me I’m dumb and/or wrong. Many, many times. Sometimes in an aggressive manner. I probably experience this more than you because I’m vegetarian and you are not. That is just my experience.

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Post by [deleted] »

whymauri wrote: post #7

I will 100% never work at this company now, neither would any of my friends (just asked). What a weird way to shoot yourself in the foot talent-wise, lol. It's incredibly bizarre and controlling.

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