St Louis Uber driver has been streaming his passengers online. Most have no idea • Hacker News Board

Re: St Louis Uber driver has been streaming his passengers online. Most have no idea

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Post by walrus01 » Sat, Jul 21, 2018, 8:24 PM UTC

Trump2020MAGA wrote: post #2

> Missouri is a one-party consent state There you have it- and a private car with a stranger driving is not a place with a reasonable expectation of privacy. This is a non-story. Uber drivers near me have cameras, not for twitch, but just to protect themselves against unruly/lying passengers.

I think we can do without obvious troll usernames here, no matter how noteworthy your comments may be.

Re: St Louis Uber driver has been streaming his passengers online. Most have no idea

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Post by DoreenMichele » Sat, Jul 21, 2018, 8:25 PM UTC

writepub wrote: post #5

This guy is a veteran?!! What a shame, that someone sworn to protect Americans now cowers behind semantics and loopholes to exploit their trust!! Clearly ridership dropped on notifying them of the streaming, no excuse can hide the truth here - he wants to exploit their trust! For shame! And unlike the proud, honest veterans who actually care for Americans! Edit: any lawyers here? Can this become a federal wiretapping…

http://nchv.org/index.php/news/media/background_and_statisti...

About 11% of the adult homeless population are veterans.

Perhaps if we want veterans to act honorably, we should treat them respectfully. Veterans are often kind of thrown away by the country after it has maimed them for its benefit.

Re: St Louis Uber driver has been streaming his passengers online. Most have no idea

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Post by fooker » Sat, Jul 21, 2018, 8:27 PM UTC

jrgaston wrote: post #6

Remind me, why do people favor Uber over a taxi?

Is there any reason this could not happen in a taxi?

Re: St Louis Uber driver has been streaming his passengers online. Most have no idea

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Post by Scoundreller » Sat, Jul 21, 2018, 8:32 PM UTC

jrgaston wrote: post #6

Remind me, why do people favor Uber over a taxi?

Cheaper. Easier ordering. You know when it will arrive. You can land in a country where people speak != your language, and still get around without having to learn the "local way". Reviews of rider and driver provide some metrics to act upon by vendor.

Re: St Louis Uber driver has been streaming his passengers online. Most have no idea

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Post by dbg31415 » Sat, Jul 21, 2018, 8:32 PM UTC

orastor wrote: post #3

Some videos are still up: https://www.twitch.tv/justsmurf/videos/all Creepy as fuck to be honest

Most taxis have videos... just a matter of who watches it.

Is it less creepy if it's just some guy watching old surveillance videos if he works for a security company? Or the NSA? Because... well, look, if you find this creepy you'll just make yourself sad reading about what our government does.

Re: St Louis Uber driver has been streaming his passengers online. Most have no idea

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Post by Scoundreller » Sat, Jul 21, 2018, 8:34 PM UTC

This would never happen in Canada... our data rates are too outrageous to make this viable.

Re: St Louis Uber driver has been streaming his passengers online. Most have no idea

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Post by bdcravens » Sat, Jul 21, 2018, 8:34 PM UTC

Ring doorbell cameras record without consent, and can be shared via their neighborhood feature. Uber vehicles, like homes with Ring cameras, are private property. Aside from Uber serving as a middleman between private citizens and private property, what's the difference?

Re: St Louis Uber driver has been streaming his passengers online. Most have no idea

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Post by efficax » Sat, Jul 21, 2018, 8:34 PM UTC

jrgaston wrote: post #6

Remind me, why do people favor Uber over a taxi?

In NYC, I'll take a cab. Just about everywhere else in America I get a Lyft. Why? Because taxi dispatch sucks. The cabs never come, or they come very late. The dispatch operators are rude if you ask where the cab you called is. In some places, like Albany, NY, the cabs will take detours to pick up other passengers without asking you or telling you that's what will happen. Etc.

If you live in most of America, and want to get somewhere, and the public transit sucks, Lyft gets you there. Taxis just don't.

Re: St Louis Uber driver has been streaming his passengers online. Most have no idea

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Post by matthewmacleod » Sat, Jul 21, 2018, 8:41 PM UTC

dbg31415 wrote: post #15

orastor wrote: post #3

Some videos are still up: https://www.twitch.tv/justsmurf/videos/all Creepy as fuck to be honest

Most taxis have videos... just a matter of who watches it. Is it less creepy if it's just some guy watching old surveillance videos if he works for a security company? Or the NSA? Because... well, look, if you find this creepy you'll just make yourself sad reading about what our government does.

Yes, that is less creepy.

Re: St Louis Uber driver has been streaming his passengers online. Most have no idea

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Post by writepub » Sat, Jul 21, 2018, 8:42 PM UTC

jdavis703 wrote: post #10

writepub wrote: post #5

This guy is a veteran?!! What a shame, that someone sworn to protect Americans now cowers behind semantics and loopholes to exploit their trust!! Clearly ridership dropped on notifying them of the streaming, no excuse can hide the truth here - he wants to exploit their trust! For shame! And unlike the proud, honest veterans who actually care for Americans! Edit: any lawyers here? Can this become a federal wiretapping…

I'm not a veteran, but I did take the oath of office. To me, the oath that I swore to uphold is to defend American government institutions (and particularly the agency I worked for) against foreign and domestic enemies. My oath doesn't mean I have any special commitments to individual American citizens acting in an individual capacity.

Indeed, semantics.

Wherever Americans specifically call out their gratitude for veteran's service, they're not thanking them for their allegiance to government institutions that may or may not be on their side. They specifically perceive veterans to be selflessly protecting 'the people'