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Post by andai »

tuxxy wrote: post #61

Anecdotal info warning: A few years ago, I thought I was completely incapable of feeling happiness. I hadn't experienced it for a long time and was completely numb. I was chronically depressed for 4-6 years. I took shrooms from a friend at a security conference completely unaware of what I was getting into. For the first time in _years_, I felt truly happy. I have no idea, physiologically or psychologically, what hap…

I had a friend who was suicidal, and mushrooms were the only thing that helped him. He'd feel better for a week or two.

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Post by andai »

clu1590 wrote: post #24
tranchms wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You don’t. But if you have the drive, and are willing to take a small risk, you venture into the dark web and locate one of the handful of chemists/dealers who provide the world with its supply and buy in bulk. Or you find a friend who has already done this work.

To bad all the good Darknets were taken down and replaced with Honeypots.

Source?

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Post by anythingnonidin »

sametmax wrote: post #54
tranchms wrote: post #7

I’m a huge proponent of safe psychedelic use, specifically LSD. I was massively depressed and suicidal growing up (I had family problems, and two of my best friends killed them selves at 13 and 17). I dropped out of high school. I experimented with LSD and mushrooms around 17/18 years old. And while I didn’t realize it then, my life massively changed for the better. Maybe I grew up. Maybe I took responsibility for my…

What advices would you give yourself, if you tried it again in the present time ? First time product, dosage, aquisition method and protocol ? Anything to read or other things to know ?

If you're going to take a psychedelic please read through the safety guides on https://tripsafe.org/ first. And like the other commenter noted, read Fadiman's book.

Also there are services that offer legal facilitated offerings: https://psychedelicsociety.org.uk/experience-retreats

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Post by ada1981 »

skellera wrote: post #70
ada1981 wrote: post #51

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Do you have any research to suggest people can become an “acid casualty”? This seems to be more lore than fact. And recent meta analysis shows that psychedelic use has no negative impacts on mental health (and in many cases, is beneficial).

Can you cite research that backs that up? I have a friend who it brought out/caused his schizophrenia. I understand it may have occurred naturally eventually because he has a family history but having it occur when he was 20 is much worse than later in life. It’s incredibly irresponsible to say it has no negative impacts without more research being done in the area.

http://www.iflscience.com/brain/new-studies-fail-find-associ...

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Post by anythingnonidin »

pdgonzalez872 wrote: post #8
tranchms wrote: post #7

I’m a huge proponent of safe psychedelic use, specifically LSD. I was massively depressed and suicidal growing up (I had family problems, and two of my best friends killed them selves at 13 and 17). I dropped out of high school. I experimented with LSD and mushrooms around 17/18 years old. And while I didn’t realize it then, my life massively changed for the better. Maybe I grew up. Maybe I took responsibility for my…

So how do I get to experiment with this in a controlled and legal way these days?

Go to one of these:

https://psychedelicsociety.org.uk/experience-retreats

https://www.mycomeditations.com/

https://synthesisretreat.com/

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Post by yeukhon »

Drug makers do not understand what it is like to be psychotic and mentally ill. They need to experience them to truly understand how to develop drugs, because most of the drugs are ineffective and side effects are way too strong. John Nash has given up on his medication and instead rationalized his disability for the rest of his life, after his final discharge in 1970.

It's unfortunate many people do not understand mental illness at all, and they think therapy and drugs can be cure people. They cannot. Mental illnesses are treatable, but they cannot be cured.

Okay, I am done. I hate this world. Fuck these medications. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dip6Q6AX4AAfq8y.jpg

Look at it. Ain't working. Ain't working, people. They ain't working. Ain't nobody gonna understand. I read enough papers to fully understand no drugs can help.

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Post by anythingnonidin »

mft_ wrote: post #26
tranchms wrote: post #7

I’m a huge proponent of safe psychedelic use, specifically LSD. I was massively depressed and suicidal growing up (I had family problems, and two of my best friends killed them selves at 13 and 17). I dropped out of high school. I experimented with LSD and mushrooms around 17/18 years old. And while I didn’t realize it then, my life massively changed for the better. Maybe I grew up. Maybe I took responsibility for my…

Any tips for approaching such experimentation in a relatively controlled manner? (I've always been keen to try, but have avoided so far due to an unpleasant childhood experience when administered an opiate painkiller, which resulted in nightmares with conscious flashbacks for months.)

Have a thorough read through this: https://tripsafe.org/how-to-take-shrooms/

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Post by nbardy »

tranchms wrote: post #37
tibbon wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’ve seen a friend become semi dependent and kinda disassociated from reality after multiple times a week use of various research chemical psychedelics. It seemed to bring out some underlying bipolar like condition. Anyway; also a strong proponent, but I’ve seen the potential harm as well. On the balance it seems worthwhile for many people, and good for many people to try a little LSD at least once.

Research chemicals are dangerous. They’re mostly all synthetics derived from amphetamine class of drugs like MDMA. 2CE. 2CB. 2CI. Etc. and countless others. No one taking them know what it truly is. They are dangerous. And more ubiquitous than LSD-25. You can never be sure what you’re getting. You can OD and have a psychotic episode. I do not classify them as therapeutic psychedelics, and always advise against. If yo…

This is a bit reductions. There is a lot of research chemicals that are very safe analogues, e.g. 4-ACO-DMT or 1P-LSD. Often times more safe because when you purchase these its from a lab that does testing and you know exactly what you're getting.

The real danger of Research Chemicals is the large amount of cheap drugs of other classes produced that have similar effects and are labeled and sold as LSD. Very few people are buying those type of drugs and taking them on purpose. And they are incredibly dangerous.

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Post by anythingnonidin »

There are some people in this thread asking for advice on using psychedelics.

If you're in this thread and likely to use psychedelics, please do your research first.

My recommendation is to at least thoroughly read the following resources before beginning:

- https://tripsafe.org/how-to-take-shrooms/ (I started this website, it has quite a few users, and it's important that people who are likely to use psychedelics are aware of this info for everyone's benefit.)

- Then, next perhaps the book "The Psychedelic Explorer's Guide"

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Post by Nursie »

tranchms wrote: post #37
tibbon wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’ve seen a friend become semi dependent and kinda disassociated from reality after multiple times a week use of various research chemical psychedelics. It seemed to bring out some underlying bipolar like condition. Anyway; also a strong proponent, but I’ve seen the potential harm as well. On the balance it seems worthwhile for many people, and good for many people to try a little LSD at least once.

Research chemicals are dangerous. They’re mostly all synthetics derived from amphetamine class of drugs like MDMA. 2CE. 2CB. 2CI. Etc. and countless others. No one taking them know what it truly is. They are dangerous. And more ubiquitous than LSD-25. You can never be sure what you’re getting. You can OD and have a psychotic episode. I do not classify them as therapeutic psychedelics, and always advise against. If yo…

This seems to me to be a very dogmatic approach.

One can be sure of what one is getting with proper testing. Some are dangerous, others less so.

Personally I enjoyed my experiences with some of them.

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