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Re: Ask HN: Software eng, but not a web dev. Learn new frameworks to build MVP?

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But I guess that's exactly the point, isn't it? The fact that Flask/Express are so bare bones, you end up learning a lot, so for learning purposes makes a lot of sense.

You have a point, in a more relax comment, how much learning is enough? As personal opinion just reading the documentation of your tool of choice can lead to vast amount of knowledge, default params, recommended practices, all of that is included in a well documented project, but how much should I dig into the rabbit's hole when using node?.

I see your point. How much do I actually have to know is a very good question. Because there will always be something else to learn.

In my case, I want to have a good base knowledge before leaning on any kind of "magic". I got into Python with the MIT course on EDX and got bit by the programming bug. I decided to try and get into the web dev stack, so I started to dive into JS too. Now I want to start to build stuff, and the reason why I asked the question in my first post is because it may be easier to just go deep into one language (can't do web dev without JS), since I am so inexperienced.

Re: Ask HN: Software eng, but not a web dev. Learn new frameworks to build MVP?

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In your opinion, subreddit vs. discourse/telegram/slack channel?

Reddit, because it is indexed by search engines. Others I think are not.

Discourse is a forum software, self-hosted and does get indexed by search engines.

Re: Ask HN: Software eng, but not a web dev. Learn new frameworks to build MVP?

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post #31

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You have a point, in a more relax comment, how much learning is enough? As personal opinion just reading the documentation of your tool of choice can lead to vast amount of knowledge, default params, recommended practices, all of that is included in a well documented project, but how much should I dig into the rabbit's hole when using node?.

I see your point. How much do I actually have to know is a very good question. Because there will always be something else to learn. In my case, I want to have a good base knowledge before leaning on any kind of "magic". I got into Python with the MIT course on EDX and got bit by the programming bug. I decided to try and get into the web dev stack, so I started to dive into JS too. Now I want to start to build stuff,…

Well if we can say things we can say that any abstraction is magic until insiders are seen, the question is how much abstraction you are willing to take in order to feel comfortable.

Re: Ask HN: Software eng, but not a web dev. Learn new frameworks to build MVP?

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For a real software developer, PHP is a horrible language. And Javascript is almost as bad.

The software tools to help you build and deploy are also a painful mess. You'll have to test on multiple browsers running on multiple operating systems.

It's just a matter of a week or so of overcoming the cultural shock. But you'll have to schedule it in.

Paul Graham says to do it all in Lisp. Most people don't.

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