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Nike Says Its $250 Running Shoes Will Make You Run Much Faster

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Re: Nike Says Its $250 Running Shoes Will Make You Run Much Faster

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There's something interesting at play here — clearly, they're selling these shoes to enthusiasts, rather than just targeting elite athletes. While I can see a competitive athlete reaching for whatever legal means they can to try and buy themselves a victory or podium or some other high-profile result that buys them sponsorships, there's just no good reason why amateur runners should care — you don't magically become…

What if I'm in a life or death running situation where seconds matter?

Re: Nike Says Its $250 Running Shoes Will Make You Run Much Faster

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The plate is the full length of the shoe. Not sure how you're imagining adding springs in a way that is more conducive to running. Keep in mind shoe weight matters quite a bit.

Springs are not always shaped like a car strut... AND Weight isn't important if the energy gained offsets the energy lost carrying the extra load.

Sure. I think Nike is probably aware of this and took it into account when designing this shoe. If you have a better design (your earlier comment suggests "just add[ing] springs to the entire shoe"), there's probably a financial motive for you to figure out how to sell that. (I think you are probably understating the difficulty of designing a better shoe, for any definition of "better.")

Re: Nike Says Its $250 Running Shoes Will Make You Run Much Faster

#54
Articles like this make me want to get a NYTimes sub, excellent reporting on something mundane with enough statistics to make it worth the read.

If we ban shoes now, will we ban other augments in the future? Will this stunt the progression of such human performance augmentations?

Re: Nike Says Its $250 Running Shoes Will Make You Run Much Faster

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post #33

There's something interesting at play here — clearly, they're selling these shoes to enthusiasts, rather than just targeting elite athletes. While I can see a competitive athlete reaching for whatever legal means they can to try and buy themselves a victory or podium or some other high-profile result that buys them sponsorships, there's just no good reason why amateur runners should care — you don't magically become…

Depends on “how” the shoe makes you run faster if it’s by improving the grip and gate then yes it can make you fitter or at least reduce the chance of injury.

People that run in shoes not fit for running or in wore down shoes put their health at risk as well as making it a hell of a lot harder for themselves.

Also there is a psychological factor if you feel that you are improving you might be more likely to keep running instead of giving up.

Re: Nike Says Its $250 Running Shoes Will Make You Run Much Faster

#57

So at what point can we just start using jumping stilts [1] or something similar? I mean the shoes are $250 and the stilts from Amazon [2] are like $50 more when you include shipping. WRT to carbon fiber plate... how is that not "cheating" like the stilts? Its like electric motors in bicycles if you ask me. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCqvUGFwee4 [2] https://www.amazon.com/Air-Trekkers-JUMPING-EXTREME-Exercis…

IAAF rules already prohibit that: > (e) Use of any technical device that incorporates springs, wheels or any other element that provides the user with an advantage over another athlete not using such a device. Nobody has brought a challenge over this shoe and its debatable use of a "spring"; the IAAF may in fact decide it's a mechanical advantage if/when somebody does

Have there been any cases under this rule about "incorporates springs"?

I mean for things which might vaguely count as running shoes... not oscar pistorius etc.

Re: Nike Says Its $250 Running Shoes Will Make You Run Much Faster

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post #33

There's something interesting at play here — clearly, they're selling these shoes to enthusiasts, rather than just targeting elite athletes. While I can see a competitive athlete reaching for whatever legal means they can to try and buy themselves a victory or podium or some other high-profile result that buys them sponsorships, there's just no good reason why amateur runners should care — you don't magically become…

my question is: do amateur runners even buy $250 shoes? I don't think they do spend that much money on a Running Shoe at that stage. Also, how can this be not good marketing if the Shoes does exactly what the marketing message tries to portray?

Re: Nike Says Its $250 Running Shoes Will Make You Run Much Faster

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post #33

There's something interesting at play here — clearly, they're selling these shoes to enthusiasts, rather than just targeting elite athletes. While I can see a competitive athlete reaching for whatever legal means they can to try and buy themselves a victory or podium or some other high-profile result that buys them sponsorships, there's just no good reason why amateur runners should care — you don't magically become…

> there's just no good reason why amateur runners should care

Qualifying for marathons is a good reason to care. If these shoes could make the difference between me qualifying for Boston, and me not qualifying for Boston (or same for NYC, Tokyo, London, etc etc), $250 would be cheap if that's a big goal for me.

edit: really, $130 or so since my shoes _already_ cost $120

Re: Nike Says Its $250 Running Shoes Will Make You Run Much Faster

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Running shoes are funny things. Due to the fact that they are basically a weight at the end of a long fulcrum, the heavier they are the slower you will go. Plus they are full of padding which messes up the natural springs you already have built into your feet.

It is not surprising someone invented a shoe that is somewhat lighter which makes it faster. I find the spring idea somewhat dubious but maybe they do give you a slight boost. My question would be how fast you can run in these vs with no shoes on at all.

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