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Apple fans returning new MacBook Pros with Core i9

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Re: Apple fans returning new MacBook Pros with Core i9

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Post by rusk »

philjohn wrote: post #27
williamdclt wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I might miss something, but what's so great about the airpods? Mediocre sound quality ( literally my 8 bucks earpods have a better sound) and leaking so much sound it's obnoxious (if you're disturbed by music in the subway, look around: it's probably someone with Apple earplugs). I don't think they were the first to make bluetooth earplugs? Is it the miniaturisation? The touch-sensitive thing?

Yeah, your 8 buck earpods in no way sound better, quit with the hyperbole. Maybe they sound better to you. Yep, they may not have been the first, but once again, they come in and have a bunch of refinements that just make them stand out. I've had bluetooth headphones before, and from pairing to loss of sync when moving more than a couple of metres away, AirPods beat them hands down.

> your 8 buck earpods in no way sound better

Of course they do! Any wired solution will outperform even the best Bluetooth one.

Re: Apple fans returning new MacBook Pros with Core i9

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Post by nodesocket »

wilsonnb2 wrote: post #10

Headline: "Apple fans are returning their new MacBook Pros that cost a minimum of $2,800 because they can't reach the advertised speeds" Actual data: two Reddit comments that say they're going to return their MacBooks What's wrong with the headline "Youtuber finds New MacBook Pros Not Performing as Advertised" or "Youtuber finds Cooling Issues with High Performance MacBook"? It's basically useless to read headlines f…

We have seen this pattern over and over again. Remember Apple's Q2, where nearly all analyst were negative. Outrage and pessimism were rampant on HN and Reddit. The vast minority complain the loudest while the vast majority go about their lives and work using Apple products.

Re: Apple fans returning new MacBook Pros with Core i9

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Post by lostlogin »

rusk wrote: post #25
close04 wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They are re-living their 2003-2004 period when the IBM PPC G5 CPU was way too hot and power hungry to put in the PowerBook and it needed water cooling in the PowerMac. Back then their solution was to switch to Intel CPUs. Now it's probably going to be to switch to in-house designed ARM CPUs.

> in-house designed ARM CPUs. What could possibly go wrong!

A lot. But imagine what could go right. The thing I most want is battery life, but I hope that isn’t squandered by translating it to thinness.

Re: Apple fans returning new MacBook Pros with Core i9

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Post by rusk »

lostlogin wrote: post #33
rusk wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> in-house designed ARM CPUs. What could possibly go wrong!

A lot. But imagine what could go right. The thing I most want is battery life, but I hope that isn’t squandered by translating it to thinness.

> imagine what could go right

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Re: Apple fans returning new MacBook Pros with Core i9

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Post by karanlyons »

bluedino wrote: post #20

It's not the CPU - it's the combination of the GPU and CPU. The CPU only benchmarks run without throttling https://www.geekbench.com/blog/2018/07/macbook-pro-mid-2018-...

My tests do not show this, but show that putting the CPU under load alone is enough to get rather disheartening results: https://imgur.com/a/ehtleu4

Re: Apple fans returning new MacBook Pros with Core i9

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Post by sixothree »

conatus wrote: post #17
wilsonnb2 wrote: post #10

Headline: "Apple fans are returning their new MacBook Pros that cost a minimum of $2,800 because they can't reach the advertised speeds" Actual data: two Reddit comments that say they're going to return their MacBooks What's wrong with the headline "Youtuber finds New MacBook Pros Not Performing as Advertised" or "Youtuber finds Cooling Issues with High Performance MacBook"? It's basically useless to read headlines f…

The whole piece does have a general hot air feeling to it...

Something these macbooks produce a distinct lack of..?

Re: Apple fans returning new MacBook Pros with Core i9

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newscracker wrote: post #4

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Updated (from https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.yahoo.com/amphtml/finance/n...). Thanks!

Re: Apple fans returning new MacBook Pros with Core i9

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Post by gaius »

jasonmp85 wrote: post #26
394549 wrote: post #7

What's up with Apple? Seems to me like they should have just dropped the i9 option altogether, since they couldn't make it work. It just further torpedoes their fading reputation for being able to build top-notch hardware.

Their design pipeline may be years deep. It's entirely possible they expected Intel to have completely exhausted their bowels from their bed-shitting by now and Intel has surprised them by continuing to soil the sheets. I'd bet anything Apple believed there'd have been a process shrink by now and they'd be able to get more cores in the same case design. Maybe Apple's been torpedoed but it's Intel doing the torpedoing…

Or maybe where Jobs would have been obsessing over every detail Cook is content to have delivered an animated poop emoji and never used any other feature anyway

Re: Apple fans returning new MacBook Pros with Core i9

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Post by dullin »

valarauca1 wrote: post #29
bluedino wrote: post #20

It's not the CPU - it's the combination of the GPU and CPU. The CPU only benchmarks run without throttling https://www.geekbench.com/blog/2018/07/macbook-pro-mid-2018-...

Geekbenchmark runs it tests in bursts with short delays between them to allow for the SoC to dissipate heat. They implemented that so laptops and cellphones wouldn't overheat, or thermally throttle while running the benchmark. https://www.xda-developers.com/geekbench-ceo-fireside-chat-p... I get that Geekbenchmark is extremely accessible, but it is not rigorous. Citing a benchmark that's designed to avoid thermal iss…

The article in question above is from the geekbench team compiling their geekbench suite over and over to force the overheating issue.

The blog post is not about benchmarking with geekbench at all.

John Poole found that using only CPU bounds tasks (compiling) wasn't that bad for the thermals.

Re: Apple fans returning new MacBook Pros with Core i9

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Post by empthought »

rusk wrote: post #31
philjohn wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, your 8 buck earpods in no way sound better, quit with the hyperbole. Maybe they sound better to you. Yep, they may not have been the first, but once again, they come in and have a bunch of refinements that just make them stand out. I've had bluetooth headphones before, and from pairing to loss of sync when moving more than a couple of metres away, AirPods beat them hands down.

> your 8 buck earpods in no way sound better Of course they do! Any wired solution will outperform even the best Bluetooth one.

In the common case for Apple users (listening to iTunes), the AirPods will have the same quality as wired headphones, since they play back with the same codec/bitrate either way (256kbps AAC).

Now if they're wired headphones with gold-plated connectors, that's a whole different ballgame.

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