Nike Says Its $250 Running Shoes Will Make You Run Much Faster • Hacker News Board

Re: Nike Says Its $250 Running Shoes Will Make You Run Much Faster

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Post by monkmartinez » Fri, Jul 20, 2018, 7:16 PM UTC

So at what point can we just start using jumping stilts [1] or something similar? I mean the shoes are $250 and the stilts from Amazon [2] are like $50 more when you include shipping.

WRT to carbon fiber plate... how is that not "cheating" like the stilts? Its like electric motors in bicycles if you ask me.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCqvUGFwee4 [2] https://www.amazon.com/Air-Trekkers-JUMPING-EXTREME-Exercise...

Re: Nike Says Its $250 Running Shoes Will Make You Run Much Faster

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Post by monkmartinez » Fri, Jul 20, 2018, 7:17 PM UTC

koverda wrote: post #7

andbberger wrote: post #3

I don't know, sandals work pretty good. > they have a carbon-fiber plate in the midsole, which stores and releases energy with each stride ... the achilles tendon + calf already play this role. Just don't heel strike.

carbon fiber doesn't get tired

So why not just add springs to the entire shoe?

Re: Nike Says Its $250 Running Shoes Will Make You Run Much Faster

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Post by danvoell » Fri, Jul 20, 2018, 7:18 PM UTC

Props to whomever at Nike PR got this article released. Now I want a pair. Its better to be controversial (Uber, Lime, Bird) these days than on the up and up. Help us fight for consumer rights!

Re: Nike Says Its $250 Running Shoes Will Make You Run Much Faster

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Post by reaperducer » Fri, Jul 20, 2018, 7:21 PM UTC

fhood wrote: post #6

If these shoes really can provide a measurable improvement in times they probably should be banned. Otherwise it will go the way of swimming, where a bunch of world records got set before they ended up banning those full body suits.

Running on shoes with a carbon fiber plate should be banned, but running on carbon fiber blades† is OK?

It wouldn't be the first time the Olympic Committee has been confusing.

† https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oscar_Pistorius

Re: Nike Says Its $250 Running Shoes Will Make You Run Much Faster

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Post by andbberger » Fri, Jul 20, 2018, 7:21 PM UTC

andbberger wrote: post #3

I don't know, sandals work pretty good. > they have a carbon-fiber plate in the midsole, which stores and releases energy with each stride ... the achilles tendon + calf already play this role. Just don't heel strike.

ITT: heel strikers

Re: Nike Says Its $250 Running Shoes Will Make You Run Much Faster

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Post by koverda » Fri, Jul 20, 2018, 7:22 PM UTC

monkmartinez wrote: post #12

koverda wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

carbon fiber doesn't get tired

So why not just add springs to the entire shoe?

check out Nike Shox: https://store.nike.com/us/en_us/pw/shox-shoes/9ifZoi3

Re: Nike Says Its $250 Running Shoes Will Make You Run Much Faster

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Post by taeric » Fri, Jul 20, 2018, 7:22 PM UTC

monkmartinez wrote: post #12

koverda wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

carbon fiber doesn't get tired

So why not just add springs to the entire shoe?

Springs would also eat some of the power you throw at the impact. Same reason you don't do shocks on a road bike.

(Above is speculation.)

Re: Nike Says Its $250 Running Shoes Will Make You Run Much Faster

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Post by ABS » Fri, Jul 20, 2018, 7:22 PM UTC

I hope they somehow collected the official gun and chip times for those runners because the times and distances on Strava are never the official ones and can vary massively (GPS accuracy, when people pressed start on their watches and so forth)

Re: Nike Says Its $250 Running Shoes Will Make You Run Much Faster

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Post by fhood » Fri, Jul 20, 2018, 7:22 PM UTC

danvoell wrote: post #13

Props to whomever at Nike PR got this article released. Now I want a pair. Its better to be controversial (Uber, Lime, Bird) these days than on the up and up. Help us fight for consumer rights!

Comparing these shoes to Uber's issues seems a bit odd. Particularly since there isn't anything all that amoral about them.

Re: Nike Says Its $250 Running Shoes Will Make You Run Much Faster

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Post by RobertRoberts » Fri, Jul 20, 2018, 7:24 PM UTC

6ak74rfy wrote: post #4

This reminds me of the powerful arguments that Christopher McDougall presented in his book (Born to Run[1]) around bare-foot running [2]. I've tried running bare-foot and using old-ragged shoes and absolutely love it. [1]: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/6289283-born-to-run [2]: http://www.chrismcdougall.com/born-to-run/the-barefoot-runni...

Any reason this should be down voted? I read that "born to run" was partly a scam book (can't recall exactly, but the cover was photoshopped for one, and the stories about some runners never getting hurt was just totally false, etc...)

But barefoot running is a great way to run, no knee or back issues after doing this for years.