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How the Car Keeps Americans Apart

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Re: How the Car Keeps Americans Apart

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Those who are able to afford to live in affluent areas have high income jobs and can purchase the land surrounding their workplace, enabling non motorized conveyance or transit. The low and middle class, are forced out of the area, however these middle to low income jobs still exist and they need to be accomplished; think how far out a janitor is pushed away from a high income residence area before they can afford a…

You're describing a chain of events that happened, but doesn't necessarily had to occur. Firstly, the mechanism you describe where people bid up housing near transit corridors also happens near highways and traffic corridors, though it is more dispersed. This effect can and has been mitigated by combining rail transit with buses or trams leading to rail stations. It is of course more effective in less suburbanized ar…

>"So much space is wasted on parking lots for vehicles that stand empty most of the day"

Don't forget that these stretches of black asphalt act as giant heat accumulators, soaking up the sun during the day and keeping temperatures uncomfortably high after the sun goes down.

Re: How the Car Keeps Americans Apart

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I'm torn. I hate driving to work but, living in Colorado, I can't imagine not having a car to drive up to the mountains. Ideally, I could use public transit for getting around in town and just use my car when I need to either transport things or leave the city. Unfortunately, the closest light rail stations to my home and work are about 1 and 2 miles respectively--a long walk. I've recently considered the combination…

Definitely try riding your bike to the light rail station, 1-2 miles is a very comfortable riding distance.

Re: How the Car Keeps Americans Apart

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I’m happy for you but not everyone lives in such a place that has that many options within spitting distance.

Tiny villages in Mexico have these kinds of options. It's not an amazing achievement.

I'm happy for the Mexicans - not sure why that's relevant.

Re: How the Car Keeps Americans Apart

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So your argument is that you need your car because you don't live in a place that is designed for humans, so we shouldn't change cities to be less car dependent?

Flipside is suburban areas have more land attached to the house (for a given $) and bigger parks etc. That's more humane than inner cities.

Not if it means no convenience stores in walking/biking distance, forcing you to buy a car for basic necessities.

Re: How the Car Keeps Americans Apart

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I personally love driving - but I work from home. Nothing makes me happier than remote starting my F150 and hearing its V8 roar from inside the house through several walls/doors. Have kids? When your kid spikes a fever at 1am and you have no car and you need to go buy some children’s ibuprofen, what are you going to do? I can run to my local 24/7 grocer or Walmart and be back in 10 minutes flat. My son had a bad reac…

What about the choice of an individual to get an F150 which has an unnecessarily large V8 engine roaring and idling when no one is using it for what it was designed for? I am in a city surrounded by cars that are far too large for their designated duties. People choose, like you mention, and yet it's the children with asthma and my mother with asthma who pays the price for the ridiculously oversized and smog-producin…

> I'm all for pickup trucks and minivans and buses, but only in the right application.

I'm glad I don't live in a place where it's ok to limit people's choices based on someone's opinion on what is or isn't the 'right application.'

I'm sorry about your mother's asthma; my 6 year old son is a type 1 diabetic - that doesn't make it ok for me to go chastising society's choice to put sugar in practically EVERYTHING we eat or to try force society to change because of my son's misfortune.

Re: How the Car Keeps Americans Apart

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I personally love driving - but I work from home. Nothing makes me happier than remote starting my F150 and hearing its V8 roar from inside the house through several walls/doors. Have kids? When your kid spikes a fever at 1am and you have no car and you need to go buy some children’s ibuprofen, what are you going to do? I can run to my local 24/7 grocer or Walmart and be back in 10 minutes flat. My son had a bad reac…

This satire right? > what are you going to do? err, take a taxi? Or have ibuprofen always at home?

Do you all live in huge cities like NYC/LA/SF/etc?

Not everyone can/does live in a city where you're tripping over Taxi/Uber at all hours of the night.

Re: How the Car Keeps Americans Apart

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Flipside is suburban areas have more land attached to the house (for a given $) and bigger parks etc. That's more humane than inner cities.

Not if it means no convenience stores in walking/biking distance, forcing you to buy a car for basic necessities.

It's not forced - we choose to buy them ;)

Re: How the Car Keeps Americans Apart

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Sure, bicyxles are great and all - but I dare you to try even a half-mile commute via bicycle during the Florida summer if your job involves presenting yourself in a non-slobby manner.

You guys are spoiled. It doesn't even get in high 35 degree Celsius (95 degree Fahrenheit). I grew in a area where 35 was degree was the average temperature with lot of humidity, and we biked to our school. We didn't even have AC in most of the places. At least in USA, AC is so much more common. Also biking early in the morning is different from doing it during the afternoon. I suppose most of the people go to the work during the morning. We did bike to school around 8-9 AM. We felt heat starting around 10 AM. So there are ways to avoid baking under the Sun, and still able to bike.

Re: How the Car Keeps Americans Apart

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I hope the first HN comment is always a book suggestion. :) I recently got rid of my car after four years of living in a city. I don't know why I held onto it for so long, but my life has improved dramatically. Not only can I go anywhere I want, but I never have to worry about permits, tickets, or parking. This lifestyle can't work for people outside of cities, though. There's no way to get anyplace without a car, an…

In a city, how do you handle buying a socket wrench to fix something in your house? (It sounds like a MAJOR hassle.)

I walk down to the hardware store, i purchase it, i walk back :|

If i want to go to the really big hardware warehouse, I catch the tram from just outside my house.

And if i need big things for some reason, I book the share-van, drive there, load it into the back, drive home, unload it, park the van, walk away.

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