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I love Cmder, it's superior to cmd.exe in all possible ways, but from time to time it just stops working. Now I understand better why.
So, MS has finally realized they're 40 years behind the civilized world. I'm curious to see how long it will take them to catch up.
Yes they should be emulating a teletype like enlightened folk!
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Have you tried enabling QuickEdit mode in the Properties (right click on the titlebar)? Quick edit lets you use the mouse for selecting, and in Insider's releases we've even added support for Ctrl+Shift+C/V for copy paste (even in wsl!). We've been working on not only tons of bugs, but adding plenty of new features, including support for VT sequences, 256/RGB color, improving our unicode support, enhanced accessibili…
> and in Insider's releases we've even added support for Ctrl+Shift+C/V for copy paste (even in wsl!) Insider's release only? Wow, that sounds like really advanced stuff for something totally basic! > we've even added support for Ctrl+Shift+C/V for copy paste So, you're from Microsoft, down voting everything that has the slightest touch of criticism? With the entire team maybe? You must be a very proud employee.
So the comment is a "if you want to try it right now" kind of reply.
Also note that "why do I get downvoted" edits itself attracts more downvotes.
The article seems to ignore the other big problem with the Windows console. It is painfully slow compare to Linux and Mac terminal programs. Especially when scrolling large amounts of text.
The article seems to ignore the other big problem with the Windows console. It is painfully slow compare to Linux and Mac terminal programs. Especially when scrolling large amounts of text.
Is that true for other UIs like conemu?
> Alas, the story here is not a good one: There ARE some great 3rd party Consoles (and server apps) for Windows (e.g. ConEmu/Cmder, Console2/ConsoleZ, Hyper, Visual Studio Code, OpenSSH, etc.), but they have to jump through extraordinary hoops to act like a normal Console would!
> For example, 3rd party Consoles have to launch a Command-Line app off-screen at, for example, (-32000,-32000). They then have to send keystrokes to the off-screen Console, and screen-scrape the off-screen Console's text contents and re-draw them on their own UI!!
I'd guess that the third party emulators might perform worse, but someone need to test it empirically.
> The Windows Console code-base is currently (July 2018) almost 30 years old ... older, in fact, than the developers who now work on it! It smells like ageism... Did you lay off the original "old" devs? EDIT: :)
Lol any original devs retired a long time ago, can you imagine what $MSFT shares from 1989 are worth now?
I'm not sure why the author is so excited! But it makes the article a bit difficult to read!
That's Rich for you - He's pretty passionate about everything we do :)
Keep up the good work, it is great to see the console getting gradual improvements!
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Yeah, this 30 years old code-base.. besides it is questionable only dev's below 30yr old are working on it (age discrimination, or accidental?), hardly anything changed. If I want to copy something I still have to do the ancient mark and copy sequence from the right click menu! What are they working on then? Still fixing bugs?
Have you tried enabling QuickEdit mode in the Properties (right click on the titlebar)? Quick edit lets you use the mouse for selecting, and in Insider's releases we've even added support for Ctrl+Shift+C/V for copy paste (even in wsl!). We've been working on not only tons of bugs, but adding plenty of new features, including support for VT sequences, 256/RGB color, improving our unicode support, enhanced accessibili…
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Yeah, this 30 years old code-base.. besides it is questionable only dev's below 30yr old are working on it (age discrimination, or accidental?), hardly anything changed. If I want to copy something I still have to do the ancient mark and copy sequence from the right click menu! What are they working on then? Still fixing bugs?
What about learning to use the OS? Quick edit for UNIX style copy-paste with the mouse goes all the way back to Windows 9X. The only issue is that it was always disabled by default, until they changed to be enabled by default with the latest set of changes. Spending a couple of seconds after logging in to enable it, for the very first time on a new system, was never a big deal.
I tried using PowerShell or Hyper. But these are just so slow to start. So I'm always coming back to cmd.exe. It is fast and serves my basic needs just perfect. When I need more, I just type 'bash'. And bash also starts faster than PowerShell or Hyper. So I don't see why they now change WIN+X and Explorer to use PowerShell rather than cmd.exe. Keep improving cmd.exe. But please don't make it bloated.
And Powershell Core (Powershell 6) is quite snappy. Try it out. They changed the name to pwsh.exe, you can have them in parallel in your PATH.