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A Blockchain Analysis of the July 13th Mueller Indictment

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Re: A Blockchain Analysis of the July 13th Mueller Indictment

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I have to imagine that the first person at the FBI (or whichever agency is responsible for tracking money laundering) to come across bitcoin fell out of their chair laughing when they came across it. It's a protocol that has a public, dated, irrefutable log of every transaction made... and its users think it untraceable (or at least, they thought it untraceable back when it first came out).

Perhaps not outright, but it CAN be anonymous / difficult to trace depending on HOW you do things.

Re: A Blockchain Analysis of the July 13th Mueller Indictment

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Ultimately, by letting their servers unsecured, the DNC, RNC, and HRC, DTC are fully guilty of nothing [sic][sarcasm]

Cough b.s. DNC needs to sober up and admit defeat ahead of the RNC hack releases. Right now the hilarious Trump Derangement Disorder they're suffering from will only continue to promote inequality.

Re: A Blockchain Analysis of the July 13th Mueller Indictment

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Great, now I know how to frame someone using Bitcoin. 1. Select a victim 2. Every time you are about to make a Bitcoin transaction, send an email to the victim's address requesting the amount you are about to send. (Bonus point if you can get directly into the spam folder.) 3. Send bitcoins as you intended to do. Now lay back and wait for your victim to be linked to your shady activities. (I'm writing this as a criti…

Hopefully the investigation has something more robust.

That's quite unlikely, because of exactly what you pointed out. The reality is that this case could not and was not meant to be able to stand up to the rigors of a federal prosecution with good defense attorneys in a US court. People that could not be arrested or extradited were indicted for a reason - Mueller knew this case would never actually be litigated. This was Mueller's ham sandwich indictment for the day [1].

This indictment was meant for Mueller to justify his existence and the expenses that we, the taxpayers, have incurred on this investigation. He got a PR win that satisfied the media's need for headlines about Russian involvement in the election by putting together some broad strokes, knowing that he'd never have to actually prove it beyond a reasonable doubt.

[1] https://www.barrypopik.com/index.php/new_york_city/entry/ind...

Re: A Blockchain Analysis of the July 13th Mueller Indictment

#34

Great, now I know how to frame someone using Bitcoin. 1. Select a victim 2. Every time you are about to make a Bitcoin transaction, send an email to the victim's address requesting the amount you are about to send. (Bonus point if you can get directly into the spam folder.) 3. Send bitcoins as you intended to do. Now lay back and wait for your victim to be linked to your shady activities. (I'm writing this as a criti…

> Great, now I know how to frame someone using Bitcoin.

> 1. Select a "victim" under investigation by all US law enforcement agencies involved in counterintelligence and a significant fraction of Western intelligence agencies in general

Fixed that for you.

Re: A Blockchain Analysis of the July 13th Mueller Indictment

#35

Great, now I know how to frame someone using Bitcoin. 1. Select a victim 2. Every time you are about to make a Bitcoin transaction, send an email to the victim's address requesting the amount you are about to send. (Bonus point if you can get directly into the spam folder.) 3. Send bitcoins as you intended to do. Now lay back and wait for your victim to be linked to your shady activities. (I'm writing this as a criti…

Hopefully the investigation has something more robust. That's quite unlikely, because of exactly what you pointed out. The reality is that this case could not and was not meant to be able to stand up to the rigors of a federal prosecution with good defense attorneys in a US court. People that could not be arrested or extradited were indicted for a reason - Mueller knew this case would never actually be litigated. Thi…

> People that could not be arrested or extradited were indicted for a reason - Mueller knew this case would never actually be litigated.

https://i.imgur.com/8BaL1w9_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&f...

Guilty: https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2017/05/22/ap_1703269051709...

Guilty: https://c.o0bg.com/rf/image_960w/Boston/2011-2020/2018/02/19...

Guilty: https://i0.wp.com/www.nationalreview.com/wp-content/uploads/...

Guilty: https://static01.nyt.com/images/2018/02/21/us/21meuller_dc/2...

Re: A Blockchain Analysis of the July 13th Mueller Indictment

#36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hopefully the investigation has something more robust. That's quite unlikely, because of exactly what you pointed out. The reality is that this case could not and was not meant to be able to stand up to the rigors of a federal prosecution with good defense attorneys in a US court. People that could not be arrested or extradited were indicted for a reason - Mueller knew this case would never actually be litigated. Thi…

> People that could not be arrested or extradited were indicted for a reason - Mueller knew this case would never actually be litigated. https://i.imgur.com/8BaL1w9_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&f... Guilty: https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2017/05/22/ap_1703269051709... Guilty: https://c.o0bg.com/rf/image_960w/Boston/2011-2020/2018/02/19... Guilty: https://i0.wp.com/www.nationalreview.com/wp-content/uploads/... Gui…

Those are random pictures of people not in this indictment just FYI. Your comment is completely off topic.

Re: A Blockchain Analysis of the July 13th Mueller Indictment

#37

Details on count 10 are pretty damning. They managed to correlate their various sources of information pretty well. There's not much to say, they managed to tie a wallet address to a person/ip address and were able to trace a surprising amount of attempted money laundering that way.

Well, maybe something is damning, but if you believe that these "operatives" signed their e-mails with their full names including patronymics and ranks like "GRU captain" I have a cheap sunny beach in Greenland for sale. Or if you believe that the US spies had somehow full access to this info and are not afraid to compromise their sources by these revelations. Or, finally, if you believe that the US security agencies…

Dutch intelligence watched them do it. They were able to watch people coming and going through a security camera.

https://www.volkskrant.nl/wetenschap/dutch-agencies-provide-...

Re: A Blockchain Analysis of the July 13th Mueller Indictment

#38

Great, now I know how to frame someone using Bitcoin. 1. Select a victim 2. Every time you are about to make a Bitcoin transaction, send an email to the victim's address requesting the amount you are about to send. (Bonus point if you can get directly into the spam folder.) 3. Send bitcoins as you intended to do. Now lay back and wait for your victim to be linked to your shady activities. (I'm writing this as a criti…

Or just pick someone and watch the chain and send the appropriate emails.

I used to do that in a weird way with a lightly paranoid coworker (he wasn't battling mental illness or anything, he was fine). He did have a lot of concerns about e-privacy in the 90s (legit forward thinking stuff) and I would send him emails through open mail relays like whitehouse.gov and such "Hey man I dropped off all the magic white powder stuff in your blue Honda Accord.". It was all in jest, he was fine last I heard.

Re: A Blockchain Analysis of the July 13th Mueller Indictment

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> People that could not be arrested or extradited were indicted for a reason - Mueller knew this case would never actually be litigated. https://i.imgur.com/8BaL1w9_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&f... Guilty: https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2017/05/22/ap_1703269051709... Guilty: https://c.o0bg.com/rf/image_960w/Boston/2011-2020/2018/02/19... Guilty: https://i0.wp.com/www.nationalreview.com/wp-content/uploads/... Gui…

Those are random pictures of people not in this indictment just FYI. Your comment is completely off topic.

Indicted. You know, the first step before someone can get convicted?

Re: A Blockchain Analysis of the July 13th Mueller Indictment

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I have to imagine that the first person at the FBI (or whichever agency is responsible for tracking money laundering) to come across bitcoin fell out of their chair laughing when they came across it. It's a protocol that has a public, dated, irrefutable log of every transaction made... and its users think it untraceable (or at least, they thought it untraceable back when it first came out).

it's about as untraceable as cash. If you pick some up anonymously, then use a different address for each transaction, all while obfuscating your connection using Tor or the like, your transactions should be difficult to trace.

You don't have to do any of that with cash.
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