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Self-Driving Car Startup Voyage Brings on Ex-Tesla, Cruise and Uber Exec as CTO

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Re: Self-Driving Car Startup Voyage Brings on Ex-Tesla, Cruise and Uber Exec as CTO

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Very impressed with some of Voyage's recent hires. A question for @olivercameron, What makes Voyage different? From what I understand, you pick canonical routes inside private communities. Let's assume demand on these routes are high enough, and there are enough private communities to make a significant market. What prevents Google from coming in and mapping the area in a week and run you out of business? Let's say,…

Hello!

>What makes Voyage different?

We are going to market with autonomous vehicles in a very different way, focusing on large private cities first and foremost. We intend The Villages, Florida to be the first (retirement) city that's traversable end-to-end (all 750 miles of road) in an autonomous vehicle.

We'll eventually make the leap to public cities, and it will feel gradual when it does happen.

We think about our technology quite differently, leaning on lots of partners for the infrastructure (mapping, simulation, sensors, tele-operation, middleware, and more) behind the scenes. This enforces a real focus on the un-solved autonomous algorithms.

We'll also be sharing later this year a project we're in the middle of that's dramatically different technologically to what we've seen elsewhere, utilizing the community itself to make a leap in autonomous performance.

>From what I understand, you pick canonical routes inside private communities.

We design our autonomous systems to traverse _any_ point-to-point route within an entire private (retirement) city. We intentionally don't just focus on a single, shuttle-like route. It turns out that pretty much any route in a place like The Villages is far less complex than other city-like environments, but that the business opportunity is just as large.

>What prevents Google from coming in and mapping the area in a week and run you out of business?

Voyage has exclusivity clauses in our agreements with our communities, where we also grant the community a slice of Voyage in the form of equity. Contracts are unfortunately meant to be broken, which means that we put a lot of effort into making sure relationships with these locations are great. We frequently host Town Halls and make sure the community is heard. This is crucial.

>I'm a self driving car engineer, why would I pick Voyage over other big players who have a lot more capital and much bigger team with a lot more people like Drew Gray?

It's a lot of fun here. Contrary to the hype, there's relatively few full-stack self-driving car startups at the Series A level. We believe our people, our technology, and go-to-market to be the best of that group.

Most importantly, when searching for new Voyage team members, we don't optimize for specific degrees or backgrounds. One of our greatest strengths is the team we've built with that philosophy.

Re: Self-Driving Car Startup Voyage Brings on Ex-Tesla, Cruise and Uber Exec as CTO

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Hello everyone! @olivercameron, CEO of Voyage here. Drew is currently busy at our Testing Grounds shipping a new release, but if there's any Voyage or self-driving car related questions I can answer, I'd love to hear em'! My previous life was at Udacity, where I spent 4 years working on their self-driving car and machine learning curriculum. I learned a ton from working with Sebastian Thrun and the rest of the Udacit…

What are your thoughts on binocular cameras vs LIDAR for car vision? Will we ever get by on just 2 cameras?

LIDAR all the way. High-resolution, long-range physics-accurate depth is so crucial.

We will one day have a fully autonomous car with just a few cameras, but we may also have ultra-low cost high-performance LIDAR then.

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Hello! Great questions. 1) If you already have a good grasp of Python, I always advise to start with the AI for Robotics MOOC at Udacity, which is my favorite class of all time. Once that's done, I'd take a look at their Deep Learning classes and the Self-Driving Car Nanodegree. 2) I think it's crucial to get to grips with how the whole stack works, so I always advise to get to grips with a middleware like ROS. Also,…

Great answer, thank you! I will look into those courses and dig deep into the algorithms/stack.

Ping me when you're ready to start a job search in the space :) oliver@voyage.auto

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Great answer, thank you! I will look into those courses and dig deep into the algorithms/stack.

Ping me when you're ready to start a job search in the space :) oliver@voyage.auto

Will do! Thank you!

Re: Self-Driving Car Startup Voyage Brings on Ex-Tesla, Cruise and Uber Exec as CTO

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I was just thinking this, but it seems his departure from Cruise coincided with the GM acquisition, and the transition to Uber from Otto probably happened because Uber acquired Otto. The primary job changes then are from Tesla to Otto and now from Uber to Voyage.

Totally agree. I got shit from folks in a different thread when I said I would be wary of hiring people with a lot of "job hopping" on their resume, but this guy totally doesn't look like he fits the bill for that: 1. 2 solid years at Tesla 2. Then moved to Cruise (very easy to understand why someone would want that) but was acquired only 7 mo later. Not hard to understand why he wouldn't want to work at GM, not what…

Drew was asked to leave cruise before the GM acquisition by the other executives. He was gone before the final demo and wasn’t involved in the negotiations.

Re: Self-Driving Car Startup Voyage Brings on Ex-Tesla, Cruise and Uber Exec as CTO

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Hello everyone! @olivercameron, CEO of Voyage here. Drew is currently busy at our Testing Grounds shipping a new release, but if there's any Voyage or self-driving car related questions I can answer, I'd love to hear em'! My previous life was at Udacity, where I spent 4 years working on their self-driving car and machine learning curriculum. I learned a ton from working with Sebastian Thrun and the rest of the Udacit…

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Re: Self-Driving Car Startup Voyage Brings on Ex-Tesla, Cruise and Uber Exec as CTO

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Great answer, thank you! I will look into those courses and dig deep into the algorithms/stack.

Ping me when you're ready to start a job search in the space :) oliver@voyage.auto

Where is your engineering team located? I have a friend who might be interested.

Re: Self-Driving Car Startup Voyage Brings on Ex-Tesla, Cruise and Uber Exec as CTO

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Hi Oliver,

Udacity SDC alum here. Are there plans in the pipeline to open a subdivision on the East coast? I am super interested applying my education in new career opportunities but self driving car related jobs are tough to find near NYC.

Re: Self-Driving Car Startup Voyage Brings on Ex-Tesla, Cruise and Uber Exec as CTO

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Not necessarily a bad thing, but it seems that guy is always looking for his next job. Good luck keeping him on board for any significant amount of time. Although maybe he already ran out of self-driving-vehicle startups to work at.

Seems to me people that have a job title where the first letter begins with "C" and rhymes with "Reef" are given a much wider berth when it comes to the types of thing that would get the average worker thoroughly passed over in job screenings.

As an aside - I've always heard "to give a wide berth" used in the same sense as "keep at arms' length" or even "wouldn't touch with a barge pole". I'm curious as to whether it's also commonly used in this sense?

Interestingly, the way I'd phrase this case is to "give them more leeway" which is a closely related nautical term but seems to be used the opposite.

Edit: Thinking about it, I guess to "give them more leeway" is to give them more room to maneuver, while "give a wide berth" is to give yourself more room.

Re: Self-Driving Car Startup Voyage Brings on Ex-Tesla, Cruise and Uber Exec as CTO

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@olivercameron Hi Oliver, Udacity SDC alum here. Are there plans in the pipeline to open a subdivision on the East coast? I am super interested applying my education in new career opportunities but self driving car related jobs are tough to find near NYC.

Unfortunately not just yet, but we are open to remote work for the right folks. Ping me! oliver@voyage.auto
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