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55% of the US National Debt Is the Result of Repaying Debt with More Debt

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Re: 55% of the US National Debt Is the Result of Repaying Debt with More Debt

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This reminds me of selling Bitcoin in order to pay off debt.

more like paying off one credit card with another that has higher APR. Next big crisis might be a sovereign debt crisis on a global scale. The only question is how long this can continue...until SHTF.

Sadly, if world history is any guide, the problem will be "solved" on the battlefield.

Re: 55% of the US National Debt Is the Result of Repaying Debt with More Debt

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Where are these interest payments going to? Who profits off the US being perpetually in debt?

I believe it is those who own US Treasury Securities.

These are the foreign holdings: http://ticdata.treasury.gov/Publish/mfh.txt

From what I understand, the rest are citizens & US based funds.

Re: 55% of the US National Debt Is the Result of Repaying Debt with More Debt

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This reminds me of selling Bitcoin in order to pay off debt.

more like paying off one credit card with another that has higher APR. Next big crisis might be a sovereign debt crisis on a global scale. The only question is how long this can continue...until SHTF.

I don't think you read it correctly. What we're doing, indeed what we've done since 2008, was borrow at a historically low interest rate to pay back interest and debt bought at a higher interest rate.

Re: 55% of the US National Debt Is the Result of Repaying Debt with More Debt

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This reminds me of selling Bitcoin in order to pay off debt.

more like paying off one credit card with another that has higher APR. Next big crisis might be a sovereign debt crisis on a global scale. The only question is how long this can continue...until SHTF.

The USA enjoys a unique position with respect to sovereign debt, since it is denominated in our own currency. Also, a great deal of it is owed to ourselves and it has always been the plan of political parties to just stiff future generations. Debt crises might happen but probably not the biggest problem faced by USA. It is odd to focus on borrowing when our country faces numerous acute problems at the moment.

Re: 55% of the US National Debt Is the Result of Repaying Debt with More Debt

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"Debt Is the Result of Repaying Debt with More Debt"

Actually, you can pay debt only with more debt. This is fundamental to capitalism and reason for it's dynamic and future downfall.

"In order to pay back debt with interest, it is necessary to have economic growth, and financial growth and growth in fossil fuel use are very closely tied." https://ourfiniteworld.com/2011/02/21/there-is-no-steady-sta...

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It's an interesting point and something that we should talk about. But the article doesn't really make the case that this is a waste of money. If it was advantageous to take on the debt in the first place, it might also be worthwhile to keep the debt on the books now. Presumably there is an interest rate at which it will stop being worth servicing the debt, but I don't really know where that point is.

well the game will continue until you cant service your debt payments anymore. Then you default. Crisis, pain, recession. Rinse then repeat.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_debt_crises

Re: 55% of the US National Debt Is the Result of Repaying Debt with More Debt

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Where are these interest payments going to? Who profits off the US being perpetually in debt?

Obviously the people who enjoyed the benefits of the borrowed money. Which might have been road users and university students, but actually turned out to be hundreds of thousands of dead Iraqis.
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