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Re: Ask HN: Software eng, but not a web dev. Learn new frameworks to build MVP?

#11

Post by tobltobs »

shiburizu wrote: post #4

You mentioned python: Pick up Flask. It's seriously the most down to earth, "it does what I want it to do" framework for web. Make sure you know how to use SQLAlchemy (Flask's builtin SQLAlchemy is amazing) so you can have a persistent database and just spend some time building pages with forms and populate your pages with forms. Later you can make it look pretty with Bootstrap. I spent a lot of time opposed to "web…

Flask is great, but as this is his first web project he wont have any own opinions. Therefore Django might be the better choice as he has all the batteries (ORM, backend dashboard, user registration, ...) already included.

Re: Ask HN: Software eng, but not a web dev. Learn new frameworks to build MVP?

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Post by swaggyBoatswain »

wouldn't just a discourse forum suffice? or a phpbb instance

It would be a good way starting off, a subreddit would work too. Might as well start building the community today

then you can build whatever stack you want for more fine tuned features (django, rails, etc)

Re: Ask HN: Software eng, but not a web dev. Learn new frameworks to build MVP?

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Post by krrishd »

It's been a while since I've taken a look at the landscape, but Telescope is a tool that's built explicitly (or at least used to be explicitly) for building Reddit/HN style communities (http://www.telescopeapp.org/).

In addition to their actual software, looks like they have a nice little guide about actually building thriving communities on their tech: http://www.communitybuildingguide.com/

Re: Ask HN: Software eng, but not a web dev. Learn new frameworks to build MVP?

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Post by charleswzx »

shiburizu wrote: post #4

You mentioned python: Pick up Flask. It's seriously the most down to earth, "it does what I want it to do" framework for web. Make sure you know how to use SQLAlchemy (Flask's builtin SQLAlchemy is amazing) so you can have a persistent database and just spend some time building pages with forms and populate your pages with forms. Later you can make it look pretty with Bootstrap. I spent a lot of time opposed to "web…

Thanks for the suggestions! I've actually deployed on Heroku with Flask before, but only as an API server for back-end processing. It's the building out forum functionality and front-end I'm hesitant with.

Re: Ask HN: Software eng, but not a web dev. Learn new frameworks to build MVP?

#16

Post by charleswzx »

tobltobs wrote: post #11
shiburizu wrote: post #4

You mentioned python: Pick up Flask. It's seriously the most down to earth, "it does what I want it to do" framework for web. Make sure you know how to use SQLAlchemy (Flask's builtin SQLAlchemy is amazing) so you can have a persistent database and just spend some time building pages with forms and populate your pages with forms. Later you can make it look pretty with Bootstrap. I spent a lot of time opposed to "web…

Flask is great, but as this is his first web project he wont have any own opinions. Therefore Django might be the better choice as he has all the batteries (ORM, backend dashboard, user registration, ...) already included.

I've tried Django! It really does lots of batteries included. It was going to be my go-to if I wasn't going no-code. Thanks!

Re: Ask HN: Software eng, but not a web dev. Learn new frameworks to build MVP?

#17

Post by charleswzx »

krrishd wrote: post #14

It's been a while since I've taken a look at the landscape, but Telescope is a tool that's built explicitly (or at least used to be explicitly) for building Reddit/HN style communities ( http://www.telescopeapp.org/ ). In addition to their actual software, looks like they have a nice little guide about actually building thriving communities on their tech: http://www.communitybuildingguide.com/

Telescope was one of the first things I checked out. They appear largely deprecated though, and have moved on to their new framework, http://docs.vulcanjs.org/

Re: Ask HN: Software eng, but not a web dev. Learn new frameworks to build MVP?

#18

Post by charleswzx »

potta_coffee wrote: post #6

If I were in your position, I'd choose Django or Laravel. I'm really not a fan of PHP but Laravel has a lot of dummy proof features and it's super fast and easy to get pretty serious projects built. Django and Laravel both have very excellent, detailed documentation as well. Good luck! Sounds like a fun project. I hope you post it on here so I can check it out when it's done!

I most definitely will! Thanks for the suggestions!

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Re: Ask HN: Software eng, but not a web dev. Learn new frameworks to build MVP?

#19

Post by charleswzx »

Jaruzel wrote: post #10

You say to have minimal HTML. So I'd say phone a friend for the UI/UX - Don't under estimate how much work has to go into the front end of web apps. In my experience users now expect full rich applications in their browsers, and the effort required to create that typically ends up being 80% of the work. The backend always basically ends up just being functions to shove data in/out of database tables - which is kinda…

I hear you. Good front end is a lot of work, work which I might not have the ability to do just for an MVP. Thanks for the suggestion!

Re: Ask HN: Software eng, but not a web dev. Learn new frameworks to build MVP?

#20

Post by charleswzx »

swaggyBoatswain wrote: post #13

wouldn't just a discourse forum suffice? or a phpbb instance It would be a good way starting off, a subreddit would work too. Might as well start building the community today then you can build whatever stack you want for more fine tuned features (django, rails, etc)

You're right. One of my motivations building this platform was to get people OUT of subreddits and discourse channels and get mixing in the open. You're right though. I'll be setting something up to pair with my newsletter for now.
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