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Facebook to Remove Misinformation That Leads to Violence

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Re: Facebook to Remove Misinformation That Leads to Violence

#32

The only thing that can and ought to be realistically removed is illegal speech and SCOTUS has already defined what that is... Any other attempts, while well intentioned, will probably backfire. FB seems to take one step forward and two steps back each time they try to take some moral high ground when it comes to free speech... I like the fact they recently increased transparency behind who is paying for ads - whethe…

While I agree with your sentiment. The 1st amendment starts with "Congress shall make no law". Facebook is free to police whatever content they don't like without any repercussions in law. It is up to society "us" to police a company like facebook that is doing things we don't agree with.

Re: Facebook to Remove Misinformation That Leads to Violence

#33

The only thing that can and ought to be realistically removed is illegal speech and SCOTUS has already defined what that is... Any other attempts, while well intentioned, will probably backfire. FB seems to take one step forward and two steps back each time they try to take some moral high ground when it comes to free speech... I like the fact they recently increased transparency behind who is paying for ads - whethe…

There are always loud fringe groups who, unable to persuade the majority to their line of thinking, instead focus their efforts on coercing leaders of institutions to force their line of thinking onto the majority. Tattle-tales in school turn into busy-bodies on HOA boards and professional protestors outside of Twitter HQ. There is no "victory" for these people, only goal posts that can be pushed ever further until t…

Yeah the people complaining about how tall your grass is outside your house are not the same as the people holding twitter to account for enabling fascism.

Re: Facebook to Remove Misinformation That Leads to Violence

#34
post #29

The only thing that can and ought to be realistically removed is illegal speech and SCOTUS has already defined what that is... Any other attempts, while well intentioned, will probably backfire. FB seems to take one step forward and two steps back each time they try to take some moral high ground when it comes to free speech... I like the fact they recently increased transparency behind who is paying for ads - whethe…

That Americans keep thinking private companies have to abide SCOTUS rulings astonishes me SCOTUS rulings shape lower courts abilities Like here for example, HN can remove dick picks no problem People are free to avoid those platforms if they don’t like the rules

Correct. But how has not going by the wisdom of SCOTUS' rulings by private entities played out? Even Y Combinator agreed it hasn't gone well, or they wouldn't have bootstrapped GAB.ai at some point in the past.

Once you start looking at those effects... makes you wonder, right? Speaking of dick pics, I don't think you can post one on HN. You could do a link to one, but it'll get greyed out/downvoted..not removed, unless I'm mistaken.

Re: Facebook to Remove Misinformation That Leads to Violence

#35
post #9

Censorship is wrong, it's impossible for anyone to have an unbiased opinion.

1+1=2 is allegedly an unbiased both fact and opinion.

Not in another universe within the multiverse which may or may not exist. If there are an infinite number of universes a universe must exist where 1+1 is anything you would like it to be. "The Idiocracy Universe"

Re: Facebook to Remove Misinformation That Leads to Violence

#36
post #29

The only thing that can and ought to be realistically removed is illegal speech and SCOTUS has already defined what that is... Any other attempts, while well intentioned, will probably backfire. FB seems to take one step forward and two steps back each time they try to take some moral high ground when it comes to free speech... I like the fact they recently increased transparency behind who is paying for ads - whethe…

That Americans keep thinking private companies have to abide SCOTUS rulings astonishes me SCOTUS rulings shape lower courts abilities Like here for example, HN can remove dick picks no problem People are free to avoid those platforms if they don’t like the rules

Nobody said that these platforms are forced to follow the supreme Court.

We instead are saying that it would be a bad idea for them not to do so.

Facebook is free to make whatever mistakes it wants. That doesn't change the fact that it is a mistake.

Re: Facebook to Remove Misinformation That Leads to Violence

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post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are always loud fringe groups who, unable to persuade the majority to their line of thinking, instead focus their efforts on coercing leaders of institutions to force their line of thinking onto the majority. Tattle-tales in school turn into busy-bodies on HOA boards and professional protestors outside of Twitter HQ. There is no "victory" for these people, only goal posts that can be pushed ever further until t…

Yeah the people complaining about how tall your grass is outside your house are not the same as the people holding twitter to account for enabling fascism.

That's like your opinion mannnn - Big Lebowski

Re: Facebook to Remove Misinformation That Leads to Violence

#39
post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That Americans keep thinking private companies have to abide SCOTUS rulings astonishes me SCOTUS rulings shape lower courts abilities Like here for example, HN can remove dick picks no problem People are free to avoid those platforms if they don’t like the rules

Nobody said that these platforms are forced to follow the supreme Court. We instead are saying that it would be a bad idea for them not to do so. Facebook is free to make whatever mistakes it wants. That doesn't change the fact that it is a mistake.

“The only thing that can be realistically removed...”

Wot

Re: Facebook to Remove Misinformation That Leads to Violence

#40
post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This article isn't about any of the examples you just listed, which are already policed by Facebook and, you know, the actual police.

My understanding of the lynchings is that they work by someone sharing a 'Billy is a pedophile' on FB/WA, the 'news' going viral, and a few hours later, concerned citizens show up at Billy's house, with axes and tire irons. Not that different from the pizzagate bullshit back in 2016. [1] [1] https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/06/22/533941689...

The assumption you are making that seems so obviously wrong I am shocked anyone on Earth would make it: that concerned citizens with axes and tire irons will stay home as long as certain things aren't said. They're showing up anyway, buddy. You can walk on eggshells all you want, force everyone on the Internet to walk along with you, and they will still be out there. If your goal in life is to live as long as possible with as little violence as possible, I suggest you buy a nice farm somewhere safe and live out your years in quiet solitude. If, on the other hand, you want a rich life that is worth living, I suggest you learn to tolerate people publishing lies on the Internet and install a good deadbolt.
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