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Facebook to Remove Misinformation That Leads to Violence

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Re: Facebook to Remove Misinformation That Leads to Violence

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Facebook is not a government entity (I can hear the jokes about that coming in 3... 2...) and therefore is completely capable of deciding what speech is and isn't allowed on its network. The actual right to free speech is not eroded in any way just because Facebook decides it doesn't want something on its platform.

Edit: This is no different than, say, a shopping mall saying that they will kick out anybody who tries to spread information that incites violence.

Re: Facebook to Remove Misinformation That Leads to Violence

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Imagine winding up on the wrong side of a lynch mob that Facebook abets. Actually, you don't need to imagine, this happens every once in a while in India. If Facebook wants to be responsible for curating content on their platforms (Which they absolutely do, wrt, say, pornography, stalking, harassment, etc), then they can't shirk that responsibility, either.

This article isn't about any of the examples you just listed, which are already policed by Facebook and, you know, the actual police.

My understanding of the lynchings is that they work by someone sharing a 'Billy is a pedophile' on FB/WA, the 'news' going viral, and a few hours later, concerned citizens show up at Billy's house, with axes and tire irons.

Not that different from the pizzagate bullshit back in 2016. [1]

[1] https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/06/22/533941689...

Re: Facebook to Remove Misinformation That Leads to Violence

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In PR terms we call this a classic “non concession.” It’s a diversionary, empty news announcement a company like Facebook puts out to mask bad news.

It is a higher order advanced PR technique. Only the best do things like this.

In this case they are masking the documentary about far right groups being allowed to exist on Facebook.

So the counter is to make a low value, obvious announcement to bury the documentary news or counteract it with other news.

I actually am mostly on Facebook’s side here. I think the media are generally out to get them and they deserve to ensure free speech of all kinds happens.

Let’s be clear though: This is a classic non concession to mask other news.

Re: Facebook to Remove Misinformation That Leads to Violence

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The only thing that can and ought to be realistically removed is illegal speech and SCOTUS has already defined what that is... Any other attempts, while well intentioned, will probably backfire. FB seems to take one step forward and two steps back each time they try to take some moral high ground when it comes to free speech... I like the fact they recently increased transparency behind who is paying for ads - whethe…

There are always loud fringe groups who, unable to persuade the majority to their line of thinking, instead focus their efforts on coercing leaders of institutions to force their line of thinking onto the majority. Tattle-tales in school turn into busy-bodies on HOA boards and professional protestors outside of Twitter HQ. There is no "victory" for these people, only goal posts that can be pushed ever further until they are 6ft under.

Re: Facebook to Remove Misinformation That Leads to Violence

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The only thing that can and ought to be realistically removed is illegal speech and SCOTUS has already defined what that is... Any other attempts, while well intentioned, will probably backfire. FB seems to take one step forward and two steps back each time they try to take some moral high ground when it comes to free speech... I like the fact they recently increased transparency behind who is paying for ads - whethe…

That Americans keep thinking private companies have to abide SCOTUS rulings astonishes me

SCOTUS rulings shape lower courts abilities

Like here for example, HN can remove dick picks no problem

People are free to avoid those platforms if they don’t like the rules

Re: Facebook to Remove Misinformation That Leads to Violence

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I assume they will not operate in a vacuum and weigh sources according to their track record of human rights abuses. Despite attempts in recent years by abusers to convince everyone that all sources are equally bad, human history is recorded and not all organizations and governments are egregiously as bad as others

"human rights abuses"... so they will lean left, like that Twitter committee.

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