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Re: Making an emperor bed

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I'd like to suggest that, no matter how proud you are of this, don't bring a woman over and open with "so I built my own mattress."

I've built my own mattress, and mentioned that it's homemade to everyone who's been on it... never had any problems, and my girlfriend says it's very comfortable :)

Re: Making an emperor bed

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I got the sheets from Advanced Bedding, I put a link to them (and the other sites I ended up using) in the materials section of my write-up. Some companies (even "traditional" mattress companies like Jordan's Furniture) will cut down mattresses from standard mattresses but they don't seem to build them up. I considered it myself but it's a lot of energy and I'm just glad it's done.

I had to chuckle at the part where you got a friend to help put the mattress cover on, because I've been exactly there - realizing I just built something I can't move myself. Fun writeup about something I'd honestly never considered DIYing, though I'm familiar with (and heartily approve of) the materials.

Glad you enjoyed it. I had some other times when I needed help moving things and had to use some wedges but didn't want to bog down the write-up with too many details.

Re: Making an emperor bed

#54

So I've built myself two mattresses using just a 12cm thick slab of foam. My girlfriend and I both consider my "mattress" to be the most comfortable we've ever slept on, and guests that have tried it found it very comfortable. Initially I planned to add other layers to it, like latex, gel, springs or whatnot, but I really can't find any reason to. It's a fine temperature in the summer and nicely insulating in the win…

What kind of foam did you use? Did you have any offgassing issues initially?

Re: Making an emperor bed

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post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I get what your saying; but this is also how we end up with hacky software at companies.. The 'The I'm pretty sure I can make this better(or cheaper) myself... even if there is an off the shelf version done by dedicated professionals.'

I disagree. If you hang around The Mattress Underground, where lots of mattress aficionados and professional sellers post, you will quickly become aware that most beds are pretty mediocre and overpriced. There's lots of in-depth discussion on their internals, and it's pretty disappointing. It's not surprising, as there's a lot of information asymmetry in the bed market. Customers don't have a good understanding of in…

Great to see someone that took the time to do the research! If I may ask, what's your opinion of my DIY mattress? Mine just consists of two 12x100x200cm pieces of PU foam cut into a triangle shape (I live on a boat.) The 12cm thick PU foam rests on some wooden slats. The foam has 25kg/m3 density and 4kPa compressive strength, if that matters.

My girlfriend and I both find it very comfortable, and all the guests I've had also like it.

What do you think? Are there any hidden risks here that I'm not seeing, or reasons to evaluate the mattress on factors other than comfort? E.x. potential health risks (back problems???)

Thanks!

Re: Making an emperor bed

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So I've built myself two mattresses using just a 12cm thick slab of foam. My girlfriend and I both consider my "mattress" to be the most comfortable we've ever slept on, and guests that have tried it found it very comfortable. Initially I planned to add other layers to it, like latex, gel, springs or whatnot, but I really can't find any reason to. It's a fine temperature in the summer and nicely insulating in the win…

What kind of foam did you use? Did you have any offgassing issues initially?

I bought two 12x100x200cm pieces of (probably) PU foam from a local hardware store in the Netherlands. Link (Dutch): https://www.hornbach.nl/shop/Schuimmatras-200x100x12-cm/3843...

25kg/m3 density, 4kPa compressive strength, 70 euros per piece.

I didn't notice any smell with any of the foam I bought. The only issue I ran into was one piece of foam not expanding properly - it only expanded to about 8cm thickness, not 12 as advertised.

Re: Making an emperor bed

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> After performing some not-so-rigorous tests on some of my extra buckling column gel, I came to the conclusion that the best way to address this was zip ties. The gel is thick and firm enough that if you push down on it you can't feel a zip tie near the middle of it. How about plain old-fashioned sewing? > I decided to go with a 7" layer of latex foam as a base as it is form-fitting and relatively cool This got me t…

I'm not sure about a cooling system, but heated blankets/mattress pads exist for pretty cheap ($10ish.) Anyone know if there's an inexpensive way to cool a mattress? I found the "ChiliPad" for US$450, with discount codes taking that to $336, which is still way more expensive than any heating pads. Everything else I've found just seems to be mattress pads with cooling fabrics, which just feel cool to the touch and don…

I would have expected some plastic hose meshes to exist, that could be plugged into any sort of cooling system (be it pelletier, compressor, evaporation, or just radiator based) trough a closed-loop "watercooling" system, but couldn't find any. Such a mesh could be built into the mattress itself.

I would expect waterbeds to be easier to regulate as well, as I imagine they have a higher thermal conductivity. This could allow to place the cooling apparatus underneath, and make it something like a regular fridge radiator.

Actually, I found a few commercial products for the first idea while researching the second, among which a "mycoolbuddy" mesh that seems to retail for around $60. To be fair, cooling is always a lot harder than heating, courtesy of thermodynamics.

edit: seems like BedJet does it trough air cooling (~$100), which is interesting as well (and they made a fun marketing video, btw).

Re: Making an emperor bed

#58
post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I disagree. If you hang around The Mattress Underground, where lots of mattress aficionados and professional sellers post, you will quickly become aware that most beds are pretty mediocre and overpriced. There's lots of in-depth discussion on their internals, and it's pretty disappointing. It's not surprising, as there's a lot of information asymmetry in the bed market. Customers don't have a good understanding of in…

Great to see someone that took the time to do the research! If I may ask, what's your opinion of my DIY mattress? Mine just consists of two 12x100x200cm pieces of PU foam cut into a triangle shape (I live on a boat.) The 12cm thick PU foam rests on some wooden slats. The foam has 25kg/m3 density and 4kPa compressive strength, if that matters. My girlfriend and I both find it very comfortable, and all the guests I've…

Sounds good to me. 12 cm is not very thick, so I assume it's quite firm yet comfortable enough to side-sleep?

I don't like foams too much because they tend to release VOCs. But I reckon that a boat might be more humid than a regular home, so it might be tricky to get other materials to work well except wool, horsehair or kapok.

Perhaps you could find a Hästens shop near you, walk there and try one of their 8 cm horsehair toppers (TM8) without a bed. Don't buy it. It's a good product but really insanely overpriced. It will give you a good idea of how a thin custom wool mattress will feel, though. These will compress a bit more than foam, but they also breathe more which might be an advantage during warm weather.

Are you Flemish or Dutch? If so, there should be a few shops close to you.

Re: Making an emperor bed

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post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I disagree. If you hang around The Mattress Underground, where lots of mattress aficionados and professional sellers post, you will quickly become aware that most beds are pretty mediocre and overpriced. There's lots of in-depth discussion on their internals, and it's pretty disappointing. It's not surprising, as there's a lot of information asymmetry in the bed market. Customers don't have a good understanding of in…

Glad to see another enthusiast even if our approaches differ.

Thanks. Your setup seems very well thought. Keep up the good work.

Re: Making an emperor bed

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post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I get what your saying; but this is also how we end up with hacky software at companies.. The 'The I'm pretty sure I can make this better(or cheaper) myself... even if there is an off the shelf version done by dedicated professionals.'

I disagree. If you hang around The Mattress Underground, where lots of mattress aficionados and professional sellers post, you will quickly become aware that most beds are pretty mediocre and overpriced. There's lots of in-depth discussion on their internals, and it's pretty disappointing. It's not surprising, as there's a lot of information asymmetry in the bed market. Customers don't have a good understanding of in…

Are you able to comfortably side sleep? How thick is you wool mattress?
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