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Re: Making an emperor bed

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post #8

> At this point, I decided the only thing that made sense was to build my own mattress from scratch. Bless this mindset. The internet would be a lot less interesting without the makers and their write-ups.

I get what your saying; but this is also how we end up with hacky software at companies.. The 'The I'm pretty sure I can make this better(or cheaper) myself... even if there is an off the shelf version done by dedicated professionals.'

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Re: Making an emperor bed

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Where do you get sheets for this? Is the next niche trend in online mattress companies (casper etc) custom sized or niche sized mattresses?

I got the sheets from Advanced Bedding, I put a link to them (and the other sites I ended up using) in the materials section of my write-up.

Some companies (even "traditional" mattress companies like Jordan's Furniture) will cut down mattresses from standard mattresses but they don't seem to build them up. I considered it myself but it's a lot of energy and I'm just glad it's done.

Re: Making an emperor bed

#23
post #19

I’d love to see a cost breakdown for this.

Came here to say just this. I was really hoping to find a mention of the cost at the end of the article after seeing none within the "acquiring materials" section. This would help fellow makers budget properly should we want to pursue a similar project. Regardless, cool project!

I will add it this evening or tomorrow, it's in line with the costs of a traditional mattress purchase rather than one of the new cheaper online companies.

Re: Making an emperor bed

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post #18

> I came to the conclusion that the best way to address this was zip ties I'd be wary of that, since someone of enough stature, could squish the gel down enough and feel the plastic ends, which wouldn't be too comfortable.

I did test this out with my hands with the the gel is fairly thick and I couldn't feel ties in the middle, even without the encasement. Haven't had any issues thusfar, and the ties are on the bottom.

Re: Making an emperor bed

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Is there a market for emperor and Caesar size beds?

In the UK, apparently. When I talked to furniture companies like Jordan's, salespeople told me nobody had ever asked them for a bigger-than-standard mattress, only a smaller one.

Some people asked me how much it would cost to make them one when they saw it but they weren't super serious. I don't think anyone would pay me how much I'd charge them to make one the same way, especially with no warranty!

Re: Making an emperor bed

#28

I may have missed it, but did you consider Ace Collection brand beds (108", or 144" width) and if so why did you not select them?

Honestly I didn't learn about this company until after I'd started but they still only have an 80" height. Nowadays I'd not do it due to my pickiness regarding materials. Also I think that width wouldn't fit into my bedroom (which I measured before selecting the condo).

That being said it inspires me to build yet an even more gigantic bed in the future.

Re: Making an emperor bed

#29
post #8

> At this point, I decided the only thing that made sense was to build my own mattress from scratch. Bless this mindset. The internet would be a lot less interesting without the makers and their write-ups.

I get what your saying; but this is also how we end up with hacky software at companies.. The 'The I'm pretty sure I can make this better(or cheaper) myself... even if there is an off the shelf version done by dedicated professionals.'

I disagree. If you hang around The Mattress Underground, where lots of mattress aficionados and professional sellers post, you will quickly become aware that most beds are pretty mediocre and overpriced. There's lots of in-depth discussion on their internals, and it's pretty disappointing.

It's not surprising, as there's a lot of information asymmetry in the bed market. Customers don't have a good understanding of internals, and manufacturers deliberately augment confusion by producing under tons of sub-brands and models. Furthermore, at least in the US, sells are carried on a 1-by-1 basis where the salesman tries to extract buyer's reserve price.

I've spent a few years optimizing the core objects in my life, and my bed is for obvious reasons on the top of the list. To cut a long story short, I tested dozens of beds, bought a high end nordic bed (Hästens) and a natural latex one. Both were good. But, like the OP, I've eventually settled on a custom design. A very different one, though.

IMHO, the most healthy option is a thin soft core on top of a hard surface. I also prioritized natural and washable materials. I ended up with a pad made of felt wood panels on top of a modular wooden base. A huge unintended bonus of this design is how easy it is to pack and move around. I can disassemble and carry my bed effortlessly. It's also pretty cheap and durable. And I can disassemble it and put each pad in my washing machine!

A good heuristic is that most high quality items are custom made niche things. Either made by you or, usually, by specialized artisans or engineers. I've seen the internals of some beds costing a few grand. Not pretty. Laughable quality compared to the carefully felted panels I commissioned from a great mill. Same applies to industrial tees vs loopwheeled ones, or cheap plastic coats vs ventile. In the PC world, an equivalent would be some bad quality box with horrible thermal paste and mediocre cooling vs a custom Calyos build.

Re: Making an emperor bed

#30

Where do you get sheets for this? Is the next niche trend in online mattress companies (casper etc) custom sized or niche sized mattresses?

I got the sheets from Advanced Bedding, I put a link to them (and the other sites I ended up using) in the materials section of my write-up. Some companies (even "traditional" mattress companies like Jordan's Furniture) will cut down mattresses from standard mattresses but they don't seem to build them up. I considered it myself but it's a lot of energy and I'm just glad it's done.

I had to chuckle at the part where you got a friend to help put the mattress cover on, because I've been exactly there - realizing I just built something I can't move myself.

Fun writeup about something I'd honestly never considered DIYing, though I'm familiar with (and heartily approve of) the materials.

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